Can you grab me those Mirage Ninjas?
Lol, but seriously, I just got my two from last Friday's drops, which now gives me four, but it's not enough. I NEED MOAR!!!!
Oops I missed the space/samurai set, sold out two hours after it went live. does anyone know how long it was up?
They sold out pretty quick, as did the Bebop and Rocksteady re-release.
They sold out pretty quick, as did the Bebop and Rocksteady re-release.
The Pizza Club Turtles are going to sell out even faster. I'm not looking forward to that.
All of these are going to need to reappear on the NECA Store.
My closest Target finally put up the Haulathon display on an endcap yesteray. I know it was then because it had just about everything.
All of the toon stuff was there except pizza club Raph.
Punk 4 pack
pizza club Leo, Donnie and Mikey
business suit Casey 2 pack
rerelease Bebop & Rocksteady
robot Bebop and Rocksteady (don't think I've seen that mentioned before)
Space Usagi
Samurai Usagi
Space Donnie and samurai Mikey 2 packThen the Mirage figures, amd the Last Ronin figure, as well as Detective Broadway from Gargoyles.
I passed on the toon figures because I already got the PC turtles, and the punk set just isn't worth it when I can't really use the heads on another body if I wanted to.
I did grab Kirby, Baxter and Broadway though.
I had the same issue. I've seen the pizza turtles twice, and remnants of others. But I have never seen a Raph at retail. something's up.
Am glad Bebop and Rocksteady were up this morning. Wish I hadn't wasted a trip last night looking for them. Bright side, saw the SHF KK Goku in store finally for first time.
They sold out pretty quick, as did the Bebop and Rocksteady re-release.
The Pizza Club Turtles are going to sell out even faster. I'm not looking forward to that.
All of these are going to need to reappear on the NECA Store.
Wasn't the Ultimate Foot Soldier something that was supposed to be evergreen, a release that many people would be able to pick up gradually over time?
However that was just a 'one and done' release so I am worried that these Pizza Club turtles may turn out to be the same, meaning that there might not be another opportunity to grab them outside of the next few weeks.
@toonturts Nobody ever said that about the Foot. They did an open pre-order to let people order as many as they wanted.
@toonturts Nobody ever said that about the Foot. They did an open pre-order to let people order as many as they wanted.
Yes, they let all the people order it that collected the line back then, but that was a fairly early time in the line when it came out, as it was the third ultimate release and we have had eighteen ultimate releases currently. Therefore many collectors haven't had an opportunity to get foot soldiers into their collection.
Therefore it would have made sense for this to be an evergreen army builder release, particularly if they were retiring the foot soldier two pack, (which it appears that they have). However that doesn't appear to be the case, so I am a tad sceptical that these ultimate pizza club turtles will be evergreen as well.
Also I don't think NECA have officially said that these Pizza Club turtles will be evergreen either, but there is an expectation from some collectors that they might be, similarly to how there likely would have been an expectation by some collectors that the ultimate foot soldier would have been evergreen back then, despite no official NECA declaration that they would be evergreen.
@toonturts Nobody ever said that about the Foot. They did an open pre-order to let people order as many as they wanted.
Yes, they let all the people order it that collected the line back then, but that was a fairly early time in the line when it came out, as it was the third ultimate release and we have had eighteen ultimate releases currently. Therefore many collectors haven't had an opportunity to get foot soldiers into their collection.
Therefore it would have made sense for this to be an evergreen army builder release, particularly if they were retiring the foot soldier two pack, (which it appears that they have). However that doesn't appear to be the case, so I am a tad sceptical that these ultimate pizza club turtles will be evergreen as well.
Also I don't think NECA have officially said that these Pizza Club turtles will be evergreen either, but there is an expectation from some collectors that they might be, similarly to how there likely would have been an expectation by some collectors that the ultimate foot soldier would have been evergreen back then, despite no official NECA declaration that they would be evergreen.
All of that was ASSUMPTIONS on the collector's part then, when NECA has never specifically stated as such. NONE of the toon stuff has been "evergreen" though. Some stuff will get rereleases once in a while, and some stuff tends to hang around due to lack of interest, but nothing has been repeatedly produced and shipped out to stores every 4 months or so.
I think there's also some baseline misunderstanding of what an 'evergreen' figure is in the action figure world - from the production/distribution side of things. To some collectors, 'evergreen' refers to an item that they can literally always buy for retail price from a retail location or specialty store. Like.. never sells out because it is in a constant state of replenishment.
While I understand how someone would connect the word 'evergreen' to this idea; it's wholly erroneous and massively illogical if one knows anything about toy production. You just can't do that. And it's not what toy companies think of as an evergreen item.
The 'Toon Turtles are an evergreen item. Flat out.
So is Black Series Darth Vader. WWE Shawn Michaels. Marvel Legends Wolverine. Todd McFarlane Batman. He-Man in any given He-Man-centric line.
These are characters that are -semi-regularly- available. Not -always- available. Huge and important difference. Companies recognize that, if they are going to have any chance of onboarding new collectors, they need to make certain characters often enough that new collectors aren't left out for too long. And in the grand cycle of toy-making, that can mean as little as once every year or two, or as often as twice a year or more. That's what 'evergreen' refers to.
What it doesn't refer to is an endless production cycle of the same figure. That would be absolute insanity.
But you can see it in action. We had the original boxed set 'toon turtles. Then the two-packs for regular retail release. Then the advertising/character bible colors four-pack. Then the Turtles in Disguise. Now the Pizza Club. Whatever legitimate complaints people have about NECA - They have put thought into getting the Turtles back out there regularly enough to get new people involved, without glutting up the stores to the point where the Turtles themselves are pegwarming everywhere and retailers don't want to order new product.
What I don't see much evidence of is NECA considering any other characters to be evergreen. One could argue that they've put some effort into keeping April semi-regular on the pegs, but there's arguments to be made against that. Frankly, I'm surprised we haven't seen more effort from them to keep Shredder at least half as available as the Turtles but there you go.
@toonturts Nobody ever said that about the Foot. They did an open pre-order to let people order as many as they wanted.
Yes, they let all the people order it that collected the line back then, but that was a fairly early time in the line when it came out, as it was the third ultimate release and we have had eighteen ultimate releases currently. Therefore many collectors haven't had an opportunity to get foot soldiers into their collection.
Therefore it would have made sense for this to be an evergreen army builder release, particularly if they were retiring the foot soldier two pack, (which it appears that they have). However that doesn't appear to be the case, so I am a tad sceptical that these ultimate pizza club turtles will be evergreen as well.
Also I don't think NECA have officially said that these Pizza Club turtles will be evergreen either, but there is an expectation from some collectors that they might be, similarly to how there likely would have been an expectation by some collectors that the ultimate foot soldier would have been evergreen back then, despite no official NECA declaration that they would be evergreen.
All of that was ASSUMPTIONS on the collector's part then, when NECA has never specifically stated as such. NONE of the toon stuff has been "evergreen" though. Some stuff will get rereleases once in a while, and some stuff tends to hang around due to lack of interest, but nothing has been repeatedly produced and shipped out to stores every 4 months or so.
Correct, this is assumptions, and based on some level of logic too, so when these assumptions aren't reflected in reality, it can seem like a head scratcher.
It will be interesting to see if these Pizza Club turtles are indeed evergreen, at the moment collectors are split on what they think will happen.
I think there's also some baseline misunderstanding of what an 'evergreen' figure is in the action figure world - from the production/distribution side of things. To some collectors, 'evergreen' refers to an item that they can literally always buy for retail price from a retail location or specialty store. Like.. never sells out because it is in a constant state of replenishment.
While I understand how someone would connect the word 'evergreen' to this idea; it's wholly erroneous and massively illogical if one knows anything about toy production. You just can't do that. And it's not what toy companies think of as an evergreen item.
The 'Toon Turtles are an evergreen item. Flat out.
So is Black Series Darth Vader. WWE Shawn Michaels. Marvel Legends Wolverine. Todd McFarlane Batman. He-Man in any given He-Man-centric line.These are characters that are -semi-regularly- available. Not -always- available. Huge and important difference. Companies recognize that, if they are going to have any chance of onboarding new collectors, they need to make certain characters often enough that new collectors aren't left out for too long. And in the grand cycle of toy-making, that can mean as little as once every year or two, or as often as twice a year or more. That's what 'evergreen' refers to.
What it doesn't refer to is an endless production cycle of the same figure. That would be absolute insanity.But you can see it in action. We had the original boxed set 'toon turtles. Then the two-packs for regular retail release. Then the advertising/character bible colors four-pack. Then the Turtles in Disguise. Now the Pizza Club. Whatever legitimate complaints people have about NECA - They have put thought into getting the Turtles back out there regularly enough to get new people involved, without glutting up the stores to the point where the Turtles themselves are pegwarming everywhere and retailers don't want to order new product.
What I don't see much evidence of is NECA considering any other characters to be evergreen. One could argue that they've put some effort into keeping April semi-regular on the pegs, but there's arguments to be made against that. Frankly, I'm surprised we haven't seen more effort from them to keep Shredder at least half as available as the Turtles but there you go.
I think when people use the term 'evergreen' they are talking about the figures being semi-regularly available, not available permanently on tap whenever someone wants them. I doubt anyone would seriously think that is possible.
I saw someone mention about the Pizza Club turtles perhaps being part of next year's Haulathon for example. That would count as 'evergreen' by most people's definition, even though technically the figures weren't available for the latter part of 2024.
I found all 4 PC Turtles this week at Target, meaning I overpaid by going through AliExpress. I really thought I wouldn't see all 4 at retail. To be fair it was only 1 Donatello.
Frankly, I'm surprised we haven't seen more effort from them to keep Shredder at least half as available as the Turtles but there you go.
I feel like Trevor more than hinted at an Ultimate Shredder release in one of those interviews he was doing around SDCC last year.
And just how quickly DID the Bebop/Rocksteady 2-pack sell out on Target's site? I was very glad to get one for myself, but man the frantic screen-tapping and speed-reading to make sure I got an order through before sell-out is not something I look forward to experiencing again once PC Mikey goes up.
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