What would you guys think if they rereleased figures with swapped parts for improvement? For example, a Baylon Skoll with different legs to make him taller. Like legs from another figure (say they saw the customing we were doing and basically just did it themselves.) Same with figures like Shin Hati, Darth Nihlus, etc. I am mostly thinking leg swapping, but I am sure it could apply for a number of things. (Pre Vizla on a new mando body.) I also know most of my examples are newer figures, but you get the idea. Heck, even the HK droids just with a new coat of paint to make them more accurate. I would like this idea, and I assume it would be cheaper for Hasbro to do?
You run the risk of the figure looking dispropportional (is that word?) to what it should. I didn't pick up the Archive Boussh Leia because I think all they did was shorten the legs and arms and make them thinner, and if that's the case, in hand it may look weird, like what you are suggesting. But, it may not in some instances, depending on how they fudge it together, especially if there's a way to hide the problem areas, like with the skirt that Baylan comes with. Now I wouldn't mind a few updates like Rex (at all) with stiffer joints. And they used the right body for Pre Vizsla. The Mando bodies they have for the Mando show aren't like what Pre wore. His armor was alot closer to Jangos, like the figure. Also why they used that body for the other CW Mandalorians a while back. Tjey just all needed to be thinner, cause Tam is a heafty dude, and his figures reflect that. In a perfect world, they would've just made a new body altogether that looked similar to Jango, and then they could've made a new Jango out of it. But, this is not a perfect world, and this is Hasbro. I honestly would've liked just even bigger feet and better hands and arms. The body itself isn't bad imo. But it definitely could use some slight upgrades.
I think I'm losing my mind - does anyone know if the R2 in Mandalorian packaging is the exact same figure as the one on the retro card? I have the retro card and apparently ordered the Mando one too--wondering if I should cancel the other one or if it has some random articulation or features that makes it worth having both.
I think I'm losing my mind - does anyone know if the R2 in Mandalorian packaging is the exact same figure as the one on the retro card? I have the retro card and apparently ordered the Mando one too--wondering if I should cancel the other one or if it has some random articulation or features that makes it worth having both.
Is there a difference between these two R2D2 figures that are coming out around the same time in different packaging? One is in Mandalorian packaging, the other in ROTJ packaging.
Nope. No difference. This happens with all of the anniversary figures. They’re eventually rereleased as-is in Galaxy packaging.
Hera finally came in. Other than a slight case of Winky Face, she looks pretty good! A bit tricky to stand- her ankles don't feel loose, per se, but they don't seem to want to stay still. Glad to have her, though. I really dig the leather jacket look for her.
I know most people don't have them yet, but what's the thigh swap trick that I keep hearing about for Baylan and Shin? I first heard about it on Landspeeder Luke's channel, but have seen a few other people mention it since. I like the difference it makes, but I'm no customizer, so depending on what it entails, it may be too difficult for some pleb like me.
Hera finally came in. Other than a slight case of Winky Face, she looks pretty good! A bit tricky to stand- her ankles don't feel loose, per se, but they don't seem to want to stay still. Glad to have her, though. I really dig the leather jacket look for her.
I know most people don't have them yet, but what's the thigh swap trick that I keep hearing about for Baylan and Shin? I first heard about it on Landspeeder Luke's channel, but have seen a few other people mention it since. I like the difference it makes, but I'm no customizer, so depending on what it entails, it may be too difficult for some pleb like me.
Looks like LL used Koska Reeves thighs for Shin and, believe it or not, Reva for Baylan. He apparently reversed the legs (left thigh on Baylan's right leg, and vice versa) then turned them backwards so her hips didn't bulge his skirt out.
It's not too complicated, but does take some care. I've done boil and pop a few times but the most complicated may have been making an accurate 'just got his armor back' Boba Fett which used parts from the Hasbro version of that figure, Cobb Vanth, and the Tusken Boba. I usually just heat up a coffee cup of water in the microwave, let the part sit in it for half a minute at most, then the plastic is soft enough to pull the peg from the hole. A lot of times, it's also soft enough that you can tear the joint apart if you aren't careful. I would watch some youtube videos of people doing this to get a better idea, but it just takes patience and care. And sometimes it takes a lot of concentrated strength without pulling TOO hard. Can be a tightrope. I'm sure others with more experience can talk about it more intelligently.
I'm just always annoyed to have to buy two figures to do an easy fix Hasbro should have done initially. And doing it for Boba Fett is one thing, I'm clearly a sucker for Fett.
@ru1977 Interesting. I appreciate you detailing it for me. Sounds like something I could potentially pull off, especially since they wouldn't seem to need much, if any, paint (they'd be hidden by the skirt pieces anyway). I may wait to see what the success rate is for others who try, and maybe give it a try myself (just gotta track down an extra Koska and Reva).
I still have a feeling that Hasbro might try and make amends by re-releasing them in Archive or a 2 pack later down the road. Heck, it wouldn't surprise me if they literally do the same thing that LL did and just reuse existing parts. Part of me feels like maybe I should just wait, but on the off-chance they don't (and given my love for the characters), I'm tempted to just pick them up now. Then again, I always fool myself into thinking that X character will sell out and never go on sale, and boy have I eaten my words more often than not.
@joshsquash729 No problem, you got me curious enough to look into it! heh.
And yeah I'm definitely waiting. If I see these versions for cheap later, I'll probably bite. The upped thigh part should be pretty easy and may not even require boiling/softening. The knee is more worrisome to me.
The other thing with swapping parts is, I feel, it's a bit of a gamble matching peg sizes. The Boba Fett I did, the Tython Fett elbows are a little loose in the Tusken Fett upper arms because the Tusken Fett elbow peg was slightly larger. There's another part swap I did where the peg was way too big, and once I got it in... it's not going anywhere. If I rotate that joint, I'm afraid the peg will snap off. And I'm also afraid it may tear the peg off if I remove it, so that's the pose now, heh.
So I would definitely stick with what LL, or whoever else finds a way to do this, uses for the thighs.
Also, I just watched more of his video and he actually popped the thigh up at the hip joint, rather than the swivel mid-thigh part. Which makes more sense, heh. Also, he made it look REALLY easy with the knee, so maybe I'm not doing it the best way.
Landspeeder Luke makes a lot of things look easy, to be fair. But I do owe him for giving me the idea of getting a matte spray for some of the more shiny figures. Granted, I've yet to actually get any and give it a try (I don't really have any outside space for ventilation), but I do think they look a lot better with the spray. He's made some beautiful customs too. Probably a good thing I don't have a 3D printer.
@joshsquash729 I feel exactly the same way about not having a 3D printer. I'm sure I would have far more life-size Fett helmets and less wife by now.
Wow. I am...stunned...at how the scale is just completely wrong on both those figures, and the fact they come with red blades and not orange. Umm, way to go Hasbro. I am extremely tempted to cancel the figures now that I have preordered. Like, I shouldn't have to buy 2 other figures to make these ones look like they should. And the lightsaber color is probably the final straw. If it was *just* one or the other I wouldn't mind as much, but both...
I am extremely curious as to what people think now. Will they make new ones to fix this egregious error? I mean they won't announce anything till these are out and sold already. But what are the thoughts?
I'm also surprised more people aren't mentioning how giraffe necked Hera is. I couldn't stand it, I had to fix her lol.
Landspeeder Luke makes a lot of things look easy, to be fair. But I do owe him for giving me the idea of getting a matte spray for some of the more shiny figures. Granted, I've yet to actually get any and give it a try (I don't really have any outside space for ventilation), but I do think they look a lot better with the spray. He's made some beautiful customs too. Probably a good thing I don't have a 3D printer.
Use brush-on DullCoat instead of spray. This stuff is like invisible concrete on a figure, imho:
https://www.michaels.com/product/decoart-americana-duraclear-ultra-matte-varnish-10329783
You can get it at most everywhere you get hobby paints.
Personally, I use it a LOT to make painted skin look more lifelike. Putting a few layers of Matte down, esp with different brushstroke directions, replicates the depth of reflection light goes into cast plastic similar to skin but doesn't into painted plastic. It's an extremely subtle effect that doesn't come through in pics I take but absolutely makes a figure look better.
@trunks3540 I wonder if the Hasbro team will ever address this, perhaps on one of their fanf*$# livestreams? Or just gleefully pat each other on the back for a half hour while revealing two new figures.
Use brush-on DullCoat instead of spray. This stuff is like invisible concrete on a figure, imho:
https://www.michaels.com/product/decoart-americana-duraclear-ultra-matte-varnish-10329783
You can get it at most everywhere you get hobby paints.
Personally, I use it a LOT to make painted skin look more lifelike. Putting a few layers of Matte down, esp with different brushstroke directions, replicates the depth of reflection light goes into cast plastic similar to skin but doesn't into painted plastic. It's an extremely subtle effect that doesn't come through in pics I take but absolutely makes a figure look better.
Oh, that's awesome! Thank you for the recommendation. Is it still something you'd recommend having a fair amount of ventilation for? I assume it's a bit better than a spray, since there's no particles floating through the air. My only (admittedly ignorant) concerns would be- how long does each coat take to dry? And what happens if you accidentally apply it too thick in an area? Do you take the pieces off to paint, or just paint the whole figure? There's some shiny clothes on some of these guys that I'd love to dull down too. Sorry for all the questions, but I've really been wanting to give it a try, and don't wanna muck anything up.
As for redos on Baylan and Shin, I'd say it's possible. You know Hasbro loves re-releasing old figures, and they're not necessarily against updating where need be- the new Clone articulation, Archive Boussh's retooled height, etc. Because of the work needed, my best guess would be a 2 pack, maybe with added cloaks, and the proper orange sabers for a bit of added "value". Something like the Mando/Ahsoka pack, I'd imagine. If they're gonna either tool new parts or re-use parts from other figures, they're gonna want to sell both, and with a 2 pack they can set the price however they want, really. My only concern is that, by the time they get around to it, they might have recast Baylan, and so the new figure might be for him. As long as the old head fits on the old body, then it shouldn't be that big a deal. But that's where a single pack re-release would come in more handy than the 2 pack.
I dunno. It's a toss-up, but one I feel pretty confident on happening, especially given the fan love for the characters. Like Ru said, if and when it does get announced, the team will act like they've uncovered some lost relic that they're graciously sharing with us. And don't get me wrong- I'd be grateful that they listened to the outcry and righted their wrongs, but still- shouldn't have happened in the first place. The difference between the Legends team and the Star Wars team is night and day on those streams, but I won't get into that here. Don't wanna be rude.
Use brush-on DullCoat instead of spray. This stuff is like invisible concrete on a figure, imho:
https://www.michaels.com/product/decoart-americana-duraclear-ultra-matte-varnish-10329783
You can get it at most everywhere you get hobby paints.
Personally, I use it a LOT to make painted skin look more lifelike. Putting a few layers of Matte down, esp with different brushstroke directions, replicates the depth of reflection light goes into cast plastic similar to skin but doesn't into painted plastic. It's an extremely subtle effect that doesn't come through in pics I take but absolutely makes a figure look better.
Oh, that's awesome! Thank you for the recommendation. Is it still something you'd recommend having a fair amount of ventilation for? I assume it's a bit better than a spray, since there's no particles floating through the air. My only (admittedly ignorant) concerns would be- how long does each coat take to dry? And what happens if you accidentally apply it too thick in an area? Do you take the pieces off to paint, or just paint the whole figure? There's some shiny clothes on some of these guys that I'd love to dull down too. Sorry for all the questions, but I've really been wanting to give it a try, and don't wanna muck anything up.
Nah, no ventilation issues at all. Drying is gonna depend on how thick a layer you put down, but you don't want to put thick layers down at all as it will dry as a solid white. Multiple thin layers are better, and esp for skin I keep brushing until the brush itself is almost 'clogged' and dry, which takes maybe a minute or so of brushing. For 12th figures you may want to get some GlossCoat to dot the eyes and -maybe- across the lips (probably more useful for women figures than men) as you can see those features better than at 18th.
With all paints, your best bet is to always disassemble as much possible and to wash with a toothbrush and dishsoap to remove any mold-release compounds or plastic exudates as it degrades.
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