Masters of the Universe Origins

I appreciate everyone's frankness. I share all your feelings.

For me, it's galling that they'd say "we put so much effort into this project because we're fans!" all while not delivering something most of us want, like, you know, a famous playset or vehicle from the source material.

Mattel, no one needed you to invent crazy new stuff. Just give us the stuff you know we want!

I mean....will they put even a quarter of this much effort into a Crystal Castle? Will they???

Sigh.

I'm so tired of feeling like the line will tank before the bare bones POP stuff gets made.

Maybe we're all wrong and this playset will sell out and we'll still get the Fright Zone, Crystal Castle and Horde Tower and Crawler and Attack Trak. Fingers crossed.

@supercamel-1982 Thanks for summing up my feelings about this offering.   I couldn't quite get the words to post what I was feeling, but you pretty much nailed it on the head for me.

Don't get me wrong, I like this offering, but it does come off as something they over engineered for no particular reason.

I’ve never seen SuperCamel this fired up about anything 

@normdapito I was thinking that too!  And also thinking that Mattel has really screwed this up for that reason.  I 100% agree with everything he posted though.

LOL.  Yeah, I kind of went off there.  I'm always pretty positive on these boards cause at the end of the day it's toys, and they're fun.  But Mattels decisions with that playset were so illogical it kind of blows my mind.

Still neat, still fun, just......what the hell?

I kinda like the Snake Lair.  I don't think I had too many Snakemen from the vintage line, but I've grown to really like them.  Also really like Marvel's Serpent Society and GI Joe's Cobra.  So maybe I just like snake themed stuff.

I didn't study the original artwork for this project, so it's not a factor in how I feel about the actual Lair.

I never had the vintage Snake Mountain.  Nor the Classics version.  Nor the Origins one.  I have the Mega Construx one but haven't built it yet (no room right now).  I've just never been that into Snake Mountain.  So the Snake Lair doesn't feel redundant to me, but I understand why it would to others.

Based on how large the Snake Lair seems to be, it's going to have a hefty pricepoint.  A high pricepoint for something which doesn't have Nostalgia Power behind it probably will have a hard time funding.

One aspect of the Snake Lair which would be tempting is the ability to use it with some other lines.  Yes, Origins is smaller than most lines I collect.  But if someone ever makes an Origins style Conan the Barbarian?  Vikor maybe as a substitute.  Conan vs some Snakemen would be a cool thing to have fun with.

Two Bad should arrive tomorrow. I will be on my way to the Bahamas, so messing with the figure will have to wait til next week.

@normdapito 

Enjoy the Bahamas man!

Two Bad arrived for me today.  I haven't taken the figures out of the packaging yet, but the figures and packaging all look amazing.  I think I will just leave them as Tuvar and Badrha in hopes that Mattel does make a single carded cartoon Two Bad eventually.

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@normdapito 

Enjoy the Bahamas man!

Two Bad arrived for me today.  I haven't taken the figures out of the packaging yet, but the figures and packaging all look amazing.  I think I will just leave them as Tuvar and Badrha in hopes that Mattel does make a single carded cartoon Two Bad eventually.

 

This is my plan as well.

I also received Two-Bad yesterday and after combining him and putting him on the shelf I have to say he stands out from all the other Origins figures because his vibrancy slider seems to be turned up a bit higher than all the other ones.  It kind of makes me unhappy with how the others have turned out now and I wish they were all like him, especially Beast Man who I don't think had nearly enough saturation of dye in his plastic, or however they do it.

Has anyone else noticed this or am I just seeing things?

Are you comparing him to the Cartoon Collection Beast Man or the first Origins figure? 

@valo487 cartoon collection. The first Origins figure was even more saturated and vibrant than the cartoon one.

If they were going to make the Snake Lair this big, they should have made Eternia even bigger than it was.  As it is right now, for sheer mass, the Snake lair is larger.  That's insane.  Eternia is supposed to be the area were all the other playsets connect together and be monstrous.  I agree with everyone that this thing is too large and not quite awesome enough to be worth the space to display it and the inevitable price.  I like the rattle trap, but the way they just stuck it onto the side floating there shows only one aspect of the poor execution of this whole thing.  Like having the jaw on the front snake head appear to not even move or do anything?

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I think there’s a tough call to be made, do you stay smaller and have people think it’s not worth the money or that they should have released it some other way, or do you go big and risk pricing yourself out of the market?

I really don't think it's all that tough of a call, though. Like.. just make the thing you showed people when you asked them to vote on it? Either price it accordingly (after all, they held the vote, so they likely had SOME idea if any of those items would be unreasonably pricey before they gave us our choices) or if there's a target price you need to meet then you gain value with accessories and add-ons that people will be excited by. Just making the barely-painted shell larger and wider, and the whole playset kind of uglier, doesn't seem like the answer no matter how you look at it.
Hell, even just a bunch of exclusive figures and accessory pieces probably would have gotten most people over the 'it's pricey' hurdle. Unless the problem is that it's Eternia pricey. In which case Mattel has lost its collective mind anyway and there was never any saving this from being ridiculous.

There’s a survey out about the Snake Lair, I got the link from the MOTU IG in their story, they may have heard some of the feedback. I encourage everyone who would consider backing on some level to fill it out, I’d rather they course correct now and it get funded than never be made, even if they do make some modifications.