It's gotta suck watching something you aren't into. I dunno, I'm really watching a different show than you guys. It's also fun seeing all the Legends stuff they're throwing in, despite the show being produced by people unfamiliar with star wars.

This did not feel like an entire episode's worth of episode. 

I also rolled my eyes so hard at the laser whip. I know I'll lose any fight about "lightsabers don't work that way" but yeesh. I guess it's from the comics? And is probably-

Also, the thread heading says "spoilers." Is it okay not to use spoiler tags in the posts?

They all seem to end abruptly. It's definitely my biggest issue with the show, but binging should solve that. I mentioned before, but my son is waiting on this show until it's finished so he can watch them all together and I let him know he was smart to do so.

Rather than weekly, they could have done a daily release.

@fletch @ru1977  I liked this episode but agree it seemed a little short - I think part of that was Sol letting Mae wander around the ship for so long and the time at the Jedi Temple seemed like it was being stretched out.

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@fac Wait they were? I "cared" about Jecki more than anyone who survived. Only Sol comes close. Would not care if the badger and the speak and spell bit it; that's for sure.

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@fac Wait they were? I "cared" about Jecki more than anyone who survived. Only Sol comes close. Would not care if the badger and the speak and spell bit it; that's for sure.

I think you are referring to this:

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Those fights WERE great, but I wish they'd just skipped the red shirts. It just felt weaker knowing they were there just to die. 

I think having the red shirts really helped as I thought that meant the main cast were armored, especially the order they did it - that they had established the bad guy as a threat but, as usual, the good guys we cared about were unscathed. 

I can see how I wasn't clear here as I was saying what I was thinking as I watched the episode. I was trying to say they surprised me because normally, you have the unnamed cast get killed off, only to allow the main cast to survive - so once he finished off the red shirts I did not expect Jecki and Yord - who we do care about - to also be victims. The creator even mentioned in an interview they intended for that misdirection so we wouldn't see Jecki and Yord coming. 'The Acolyte' Almost Saved Its Biggest Mystery for Season 2, Showrunner Reveals (inverse.com)

"He was always going to kill Jecki and Yord. The red shirts were supposed to be a misdirect. Like “Oh, he’s going to kill all those people.” Nope, he’s killing people left and right. It was just so important to be like “We don’t know who’s going to survive this.” "

I'm assuming we can dispense with the spoiler tags since its in the title.

No I get what they were trying to do and I think it worked. Just not sure it was worth the cost. I think this show is struggling to put across some characters we "like". (That is such a silly notion and one I usually think is a dumb complaint) In this situation I think it is more useful to say "see/feel the humanity" of the character. In that sense I think Sol is the only other character besides Jecki I do so. It is a tricky thing; especially with Jedi who are essentially "all the same" but the performance and writing in those instances cohere enough to create a character whose humanity I see. I do think we are suppose to be worried for AND suspicious of Sol; but we do at least feel his humanity.

I feel this a great deal less (if much at all) with Osha and Mae. I don't think her performance is bad; I just think she is being asked to do to much. It is the rare 24 year old actor that is going to be able to bring both the gravitas and range to a performance like this. So in no way would I want to pile on her like I'm sure the Incel Snyder Bros segment of SW fandom is. I very much did feel this with Jecki.

I think it was a mistake to kill her. I get that it added some extra jolt to that episode but in the long run it has played directly into some of the show's ongoing issues. Without Jecki there we are left for Mae's discovery to be done by the badger and the Ipad. It might have been nice to have a character to talk to during this. The show suggests it takes a while for Sol to figure it out b/c his emotions about Osha have overwhelmed him. What if there was some way to engage this with a character that could actually speak and not just snuffle or beep. It would allow the show to more than skirt around that interesting thematic idea. Sol is as guided (poorly) by his emotions as the Good Place guy is. "I know what I did with my darkness; what have you done with yours", etc. 

To fix this it would have been super easy. What happened to the space cop's Padawan from the premiere? Why not have made her a character all along. Tack 1 extra minute of her in episodes 2-4 each. Focus on these 2 Jedi and their 2 Padawans. Then kill that Padawan in this way with her master space cop. Badly injure Jecki. Then Sol has someone to talk to and more importantly answer to for his terrible stewardship of Osha and Mae. Fully engage the theme.

About episode 6... I'm cool dropping the spoiler tags.

I appreciate they name dropped Cortosis, and the big Cortosis vein they showed would seem to indicate that is the planet Tenebrous was mining the ore, Baldemnic, rather than Ahch To, but kinda hard to miss it was only the second vein Osha laid eyes on in the episode.

Remember when we thought Osha's shoulder tattoo was going to be how Sol told them apart? That was fun. 

I actually thought Sol had stunned Mae thinking he'd actually stunned Osha as part of his villain twist. I was not confident Sol could even talk to Basil since they made such a deal out of Yord's "I'm special because I learned his language."

Also, Mae just murders Pip, and there's no ominous music or anything. It's just "hang on while I wipe your memory." Weird.

Right, everybody loves Pip with all that character development. Heh.

Interview Headland did for episode 6:

https://collider.com/the-acolyte-episode-6-explained-leslye-headland/

I dunno... I'm enjoying the show. I enjoyed the third episode and I enjoyed this one too. I can't explain why that's so different from other fans' experience.

I know this may be nit-picky but I disliked the lines "Factory reset" and "Take the wheel". Like we discussed before, I feel some lines seem too colloquial and just slightly take me out of the show. Memory wipe and take the controls are right there as Star Wars-y lines.

Also, I have never gotten the idea we couldn't trust Sol - I read his demeanor as he has never come to grips with whatever happened and all of this resurfacing has him on edge. I suspect we will learn he felt it was never dealt with appropriately. Earlier on Vernestra stated they should keep the Jedi murders from the Senate, and in this episode the hologram Senator made a point how the Jedi were always truthful or forthcoming. So I am expecting a two-pronged revelation - that the whole event was a cluster/fog of war thing and it was covered up on top of it - both from Osha and from the Senate.

I was intrigued that Qimir picked up on Jecki and Osha connecting a bit. 

Also, Sol not recognizing Qimir implies he may have been telling the truth that it was a long time ago when he was in the order.  

I think Qimir is being utterly up front with everything he says, especially to Osha. Whatever Sol's motive, he comes across as being very deceptive. I suspect he was actively involved in the cover-up as well as changing Osha's memory of the events. I also wonder if part of why she washed out of the order was too much emotion. Factory reset... I get where you're coming from, but we already know at least some droids are made in factories. It's not outlandish to use that phrase. 

But I get what you're saying. One thing that always made my eye twitch on Supernatural was ancient creatures or angels comfortably using very modern slang.