I know I'm weird, but if I'm into a show I will absolutely binge again right away. I did with every season of Daredevil. And Better Call Saul I always waited for it to his Netflix and binged it and often just started over again with every subsequent release.
But yeah I get that it's better for them to stagger it. That's fine. I get to watch how I want and don't mind waiting. I also am pretty good at avoiding spoilers when I want to but with marvel stuff I tend to not care much.
Right... that's the thing - there's clearly an audience that likes the weekly release and so it makes sense to work with those folks - and for those that prefer to binge, they can do that, they just have to wait until the last episode drops.
But, the binjers do have to leave themselves out of the ongoing conversation - and that part can be fun, especially when there's a mystery... it's a little exciting to try to solve in real time and discuss theories with others and what not and then see if you were on the right track or way off base. I remember falling deep into those rabbit holes during Season 1 of True Detective and Season 1 of Westworld... it was fun to try to decipher the bread crumbs.
Anyway - really liked the first two episodes of Agatha, haven't had a chance to watch the third - because I have to wait for my wife and kid, sigh.
Also thought the Thunderbolts trailer was fun. Will be interested to see what the plot of the movie actually is.
A show like Twin Peaks (or Lost) would never have become the phenomenon that it became if it had been bingeable from the start. A lot of the success were people speculating week after week, and over the summer, about it. (Granted, the first 17 episodes of Twin Peaks form one of the greatest TV show storylines ever, so using that as an example is kind of like picking a David Lean epic as evidence that you should never watch a movie on a phone.)
Anyway, back to Agatha
I am guessing that the next four episodes will each center around a trial. I thought it was a fine episode, but I am not yet that interested in the backstories of the characters beyond Teen and Agatha and Blackheart (Plaza's character). Consequently, the little vignettes during the trial didn't make me think "I need to know what happened to so-and-so's Mom" now.
I was pretty annoyed that no one thought about adding Sharon's hair to the antidote, as it was either the characters being dumb (I suppose they could have been panicked enough) or willfully uncaring as it was needed for the cure. I did feel bad for the character, so there is that. Assuming that she wasn't Blackheart in disguise - which I doubt although it would explain how they got in without all the actual needed coven members - but that would be a bad bait and switch since we, the audience, saw her almost get pulled into the muck when no other characters were around. Depending on how powerful she is, wonder if they really are on the road or if Plaza's character is playing tricks on them to learn something from Agatha, because technically they shouldn't have been able to get on the Road as they were.
I was surprised at how mundanely they spilled the gossip about Nicholas's fate/Darkhold and Mephisto being involved. I like how they are playing with the fans a bit as Teen could be Nicky or Wanda's son...
@fac You're absolutely right, and I was absolutely one of those who had watch gatherings every week with friends for Lost, and we had a massive email chain going for it for those years, discussing all our theories and making connections etc.
None of which really mattered. And oddly, as the 'lore master' of my group, who kept track of all the minutia, connections, hints, etc, I was the only one in the group who loved the ending. none of it mattered... and I loved that.
Meanwhile, you also named one of my favorite shows of all time, but truth be told I came to Twin Peaks only once the whole series (at the time) hit VHS, and it was the first show I ever binged. And I BINGED it. I watched the entire series (at the time) and the movie all in one sitting. It helps that it's the perfect show to drink coffee with. But I watched it with my best friend at the time, who was a massive Twin Peaks fan, so the discussions we had between episodes weren't even the same sort of stuff as you'd have had around the water cooler as it was airing. He knew how it played out, so he mostly just listened to what I had to say.
But I immediately went to Tower Video and bought the whole damned series for myself and I binged it again a couple weeks later with one of my other friends. And developed something where coffee actually makes me drowsy.
Before I met my wife, I always loved really dwelling on a movie or show and immersing myself as much as I possibly could. If I loved a movie, I would immediately watch it a second and third time. Some Scorsese movies, I would watch over and over during a weekend. Now I can't do that sorta thing because my wife wants to watch new stuff, not the thing we already saw. But I'm actually slipping back that way with shows lately. I keep starting Better Call Saul over again, though my wife said she isn't quite ready to revisit Twin Peaks just yet. She's seen the first two seasons three times already in the last 17 years, heh.
I don't have the fortitude for the slow trickle anymore.
I've heard that's a side effect of bending one's man thing.
SpoilerLost spoiler, but... come on. If you haven't seen it by now, I doubt you're gonnaNone of which really mattered. And oddly, as the 'lore master' of my group, who kept track of all the minutia, connections, hints, etc, I was the only one in the group who loved the ending. none of it mattered... and I loved that.
So, I think it did matter in that the people who really only wanted to live their lives and not "use the Island for their benefit" were in the church at the end. By not trying to win the game (or even caring about the game), or gain power from the Island, they ultimately did win. Without the impact of the Island and the Smoke Monster on them, they all were better people as well. The characters from Flight 815 just wanted their lives to be better, not worry about the history/minutia of the Island...
The fan bases that turned on the Lost and the Game of Thrones finales I feel bought into the concepts that the shows were trying to ultimately show were not worth focusing on - for Lost, trying to gain control over and understand fate (or the whims of those controlling fate) that we as mere mortals can't understand, to the point you waste your life on a pointless quest instead of living it; for GoT, that ending up in power on the throne to lord over others was not something we should root for anyone to achieve because anyone that wants that isn't worthy of the position, so better to break the cycle and the death and suffering around it.
Anyway, I am starting to understand why we get so many posts about how quickly (or not) a figure is shipping - pretty impatient group to ask to wait a week between shows... 🤣
SpoilerLost spoiler, but... come on. If you haven't seen it by now, I doubt you're gonnaNone of which really mattered. And oddly, as the 'lore master' of my group, who kept track of all the minutia, connections, hints, etc, I was the only one in the group who loved the ending. none of it mattered... and I loved that.
SpoilerLost diversion with a little Game of ThronesSo, I think it did matter in that the people who really only wanted to live their lives and not "use the Island for their benefit" were in the church at the end. By not trying to win the game (or even caring about the game), or gain power from the Island, they ultimately did win. Without the impact of the Island and the Smoke Monster on them, they all were better people as well. The characters from Flight 815 just wanted their lives to be better, not worry about the history/minutia of the Island...
The fan bases that turned on the Lost and the Game of Thrones finales I feel bought into the concepts that the shows were trying to ultimately show were not worth focusing on - for Lost, trying to gain control over and understand fate (or the whims of those controlling fate) that we as mere mortals can't understand, to the point you waste your life on a pointless quest instead of living it; for GoT, that ending up in power on the throne to lord over others was not something we should root for anyone to achieve because anyone that wants that isn't worthy of the position, so better to break the cycle and the death and suffering around it.
Well, you're right in that what they did mattered, as far as the show was concerned. But man... I wish I still had all the charts, graphs, excel sheets, and so on that show inspired from me. I was seriously keeping track of every little nugget I could, especially since I kept tying things together and theorizing how this thing could pay off later on after the latest episode dropped a hint... etc... but a lot of that never tied together, and my imagination went on so many tangents the writers never thought of. So, what I meant about 'none of that mattered' wasn't so much about what the characters went through but about what I, as a viewer, came up with. And I rolled with it since it was frequent that my theories were quickly disproven. But I just kept going, amending or even throwing out former ideas in lieu of new ones. So, I think that I was so fluid with it helped me completely go along with what the finale did. Which I still enjoy more than anyone else in my social circle did, heh. But in the end, the theories didn't matter. What they went through, and their connections, totally did. But did the Dharma Initiative really matter? Richard's immortality? The numbers? Some of it tied together, some of it had explanations, but none of it really mattered as much as what those people did and the connections they formed. The Sideways universe, or whatever it was called, mattered more than anyone really realized at first.
The only thing I would really change about Lost is... rather than the time jumping people coming back to the present and staying at the temple with those Others in the last season, I would have had them go to the beginning and witness/be a part of Jacob's origins. it would tie in with him naming particular people as potential replacements, the Temple Others could have been more interesting that way, and... I forget the third reason. Damnit. Anyway, that's the only change I would make, and I didn't think of it until years later during my fourth rebinge of the series, heh.
Anyway, I am starting to understand why we get so many posts about how quickly (or not) a figure is shipping - pretty impatient group to ask to wait a week between shows... 🤣
heh, but hey! I'll wait two months to be able to binge the show. How is that impatient!
I've shifted from a weekly viewer to a binger for Marvel and Star Wars stuff, and it's the best thing I've done. I don't have the fortitude for the slow trickle anymore.
Which is weird because I don't have the endurance to sit through a bunch of episodes in a row. That seems way more taxing than just a 40 minute episode every few days.
I'd say the solution is to just have them drop the entire series for the bingers and then plod along at my own pace after, but it's so hard to avoid spoilers. There's always some A-hole with a video called "The History of Satana" and a circle around Aubrey Plaza*, and I've been spoiled just by scrolling past a thumbnail.
* I absolutely made that up. Apologies if it turns out to be true.
heh, but hey! I'll wait two months to be able to binge the show. How is that impatient!
Stop with the logical comeback... 😀
I totally get having theories about where it was going. I thought that after they created the sideways universe by destroying the island in the past (we see it sunk in the final season opener, and I assumed the sideways universe was how things would have played out for our characters without Jacob and the Smoke Monster playing their game), that one version of everyone needed to die - either in the original universe or the sideways - until there was one left of each character, at which point the two timelines would merge into the single, better universe, with the best versions of each character surviving. In some ways they kind of did that but not as explicitly, and made the sideways not "real" per se, but I liked the idea they went back and changed the fate/manipulation they were caught up in. I probably ought to watch it all again...
I'd say the solution is to just have them drop the entire series for the bingers and then plod along at my own pace after, but it's so hard to avoid spoilers. There's always some A-hole with a video called "The History of Satana" and a circle around Aubrey Plaza*, and I've been spoiled just by scrolling past a thumbnail.
As an FYI for those trying to avoid it, there are some images from Funko Pop packaging of the names and I suspect final looks of two of the mystery characters (Teen and Plaza's...) so those spoilers are out there...
@fac heh, i already saw those spoilers, but I purposely sought them out. Yet I'm still holding off to watch episodes in bulk..I can't explain that.
Also, with Lost... I probably ought to watch again too. I got my kids to watch the pilot recently, and they all said they enjoyed it, but didn't feel compelled to continue. What the hell?! The kid on This Is 40 was all about the Lost!!!
IMHO, I draw the distinction that Sandman fans that grew up with it in monthly release were more affected by it than those that read it in trades. That series was ridiculously more impactful to me across the years from Senior in High School through drunkenly bombing out of College on to Honorable Discharge from the Navy than it possibly could be to somebody that read it all in a week's time.
The plain fact is that a slow drip can cause more erosion than a flash flood.
On the other hand, some times a short sharp shock is exactly what the creator wants to impart; in which a movie/one-shot deluxe comic is the better creative choice.
Oof, this week's Agatha was a bit of a stinker.
I thought Agatha got soft about Teen way too early in the series, but I guess maybe it's because she thought he was Nicholas? I wish they'd played that out a little longer. I didn't even realize she might have thought that until Rio said it wasn't the case.
I was also really underwhelmed by the musical number. Like, shouldn't it have been the coven backing up Alice? She didn't seem to be in charge of her own challenge.
Just all around lackluster by canceling out the character I liked, softening the attitude I liked, and facing a challenge with almost no conflict.
On the other hand, Aubrey Plaza's boobs.
This show has everything. Sapphic witches. Generational trauma. Patti Lupone. Music numbers. Kathryn Hahn's facial expressions. A gothic gay teenager we're all still supposed to think there's a mystery around.
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