I am already passively boycotting them, heh. I haven't seen any Sony movies in the theater without at least one Spider-Man in them, and Venom took me years to finally try because my son wanted to watch it. I didn't even see the Spider-Verse movies until they were streaming.
I, too, have been boycotting th3 Sony Marvel movies (outside of the MCU Trilogy) since Maguire's Spider-Man 3.
Over the years I've had to shake my head/rolled my eyes at the box office numbers from Amazing Spider-Man, ASM2, and Venom thinking, "you fools are just prolonging this pain. Sony will never get these movies right and the longer they make money, the longer we have to put up with this garbage."
In what may (or may not) impact future releases of the D+ MCU catalog on physical media, Disney is handing off production and distribution of its DVD/BluRay/4K discs to Sony, and Disney Movie Club is closing (which produced many exclusives over the years of more obscure titles, not so much for MCU).
It will be interesting if Sony will push Disney to open the vault a bit more and maybe get things like the Netflix shows and Agents of SHIELD out on disc, or more of the recent D+ shows, or if it will pull back. Given that Sony still sells physical media players, they have more incentive to keep the physical media product flowing than Disney did, if they thought physical media was competing with D+ for the same dollars...but Disney one assume still controls what gets released.
I saw that headline and didn't fully comprehend what it went so thank for you laying it out that way.
I used to be such a physical media collector but I admit streaming ruining me for that anymore. Some movies, I'll always want a copy of but I don't know if any of those will fall under this heh.
Some bits if you don't wanna read but do want to know what's coming:
Deadpool & Wolverine's 365 million views in 24 hours includes the 123 million people watching superbowl.
Agatha, like most Marvel projects, had five days scheduled for reshoots but completed it in one.
Eric Pearson (who worked on Ragnarok and Black Widow) was hired to polish the script for FF.
Joanna Calo (showrunner for The Bear) worked on the script for Thunderbolts.
Kang Dynasty will be renamed, no longer referencing Kang. The studio was apparently already moving to minimize the character after Quantumania's underperformance.
SpoilerPossible spoilers for Avengers 5 etcKang Dynasty will be renamed, no longer referencing Kang. The studio was apparently already moving to minimize the character after Quantumania's underperformance.
Well, I feel that last one is spin.
When is the last time anyone thought a comic book film flopped in the opening weekend because the villain was the problem in fan interest?
You have a 3rd entry in a film series, led by Paul Rudd, Evangeline Lily, Michael Douglas and Michele Pfeifer, with an announced cameo from Bill Murray, and where many of the reviews stated that the movie was mediocre but liked Kang - and if anything fans commented that it undermined Kang by having Ant-Man beat him - and they think it underperformed because of Kang?
Heh, you're most likely right, yeah.
It's called scapegoating. And I hate that the Ant-Man characters are now tainted by it.
Honestly, that film would have been so much stronger if they'd followed through on the "we both just have to lose" angle. Granted, the whole film is terribly written and needs a page one re-write, to better respect the MCU itself and the characters, but yeah, this is pure spin.
It sure would be nice if Feige could give some transparency to future plans, especially involving when we might see newer characters again - MK, Shang-Chi, She-Hulk, etc, etc. Simu has a new Peacock show in the works so he's clearly not filming again any time soon.
I'm sure we've detailed plenty of ways Quantumania could have been better, but I definitely agree that it's a shame. It's a shame the Antman movies ended on such a note, and now that whole shadow is falling on it as well. I'd honestly love an Antman 4 that redeems that sub-franchise. Ragnarok those characters, please.
I think it's in the Legends thread for MCU figures, but it was being discussed about how Avengers movies shouldn't have been switched to saga endings but kept as endings to a phase. Or some kinda team-up, I feel. A Defenders-style team up with all the street level types would have been great. A Young Avengers, playing off Kamala and Kate's scene, could have been a good phase finish as well. Doesn't mean they need to go up against a universe-ending villain. I keep saying but I really think the studio would do well to have MORE smaller ideas. Lower budgets and more grounded stories to balance out the cosmic plots and heavy effects films. Diversity in that way as well. But having something to cap off a phase that brings at least SOME of the characters together, and back into the spotlight, would add a LOT toward the audience feeling like 'this was heading toward something'. You can set up twelve things in phase that won't pay off for several years, but just bringing those characters together would give more of a sense of it going somewhere.
I think it was also in that thread but I proposed a new show called Marvel Presents. Ongoing series with each episode featuring a different character. Sometimes you could have a twenty minute Kate Bishop adventure, sometimes you'll get a forty minute origin story for someone not yet featured in movies or shows. but all live action, all main continuity, and a nice way to keep up with heroes not getting a sequel soon, as well as devote some time to characters who may never get a movie or series.
It’s a shame that the Avengers jumped straight to cosmic threats and skipped the Masters of Evil, which would have set up Thunderbolts and Dark Avengers.
It’s a shame that the Avengers jumped straight to cosmic threats and skipped the Masters of Evil, which would have set up Thunderbolts and Dark Avengers.
But they could easily go back to that. The Avengers shouldn't face greater and great threats, sometimes it's good to go back to something at ground level. After New York, they still took on Hydra and Strucker before dealing with Ultron.
Something like the Masters of Evil could be cool for whatever team they could throw together during the five years after Thanos' snap. Tony and Steve don't even have to come back, but Widow could gather whoever she can to deal with it. Or have it be Sam and some of the current options set now. Or whatever year the current MCU has reached.
I think the big mistake was killing Natasha. I get that Scarlett was ready to go, and recasting is dicey, but Natasha was totally set up to lead the next generation of heroes - she was the one holding things together. And while the guys can die and/or spin-off into their own stories, it would have been cool to see her leading onwards with a new actor and with whatever combo of characters makes for a fun film.
Also, the way they elevated Hope to world-renowned CEO and philanthropist between Endgame and Quantumania felt a little fake (like everything in that movie), but that is a character in a very useful storytelling position, and an actress up for playing. Why is Wasp currently done? Honestly, Scott and Hope could have inherited the Avengers and been the founding members for the next generation - wouldn't that have been an inverse comic history moment! 🙂 Scott did save half the universe. AND with Cassie organically attached could have lead to Young Avengers, or a version thereof. Also also, that pizza that they blew up to normal size? Could have been how the Avengers help solve the food shortage crisis that would hit the universe when half of life suddenly returns.
I just don't get how they went from stories flowing nicely (if more accidentally than it looked) to where we are now. Yes, Disney+ wanted content - oh wait, I get it - Disney+ broke the temporal loom and no one pruned the branches before they hit the screen.
Not that exploring the world after the snap or the second snap is something I'll always feel is a missed opportunity. There is so much that could be examined there. Things like Spider-Man's teacher discovering his wife faked being snapped to leave him?
Antman and Wasp starting a new team could have been (and still can be) awesome. I also still think not bringing the XCons to the Quantum Realm was a massive misstep. But yeah, killing Natasha.... Nah. As much as I love Endgame, the whole thing but especially that final 45 minutes or so, Natasha DESERVED to be running alongside Cap, Thor, etc. I get why they killed her, really do, even beyond the story mechanics THEY created, but still. She should have been there. Bring her back the exact same damn way they did Gamora, I don't care.
IMHO, QuantuMania's failure and partially the failure of the Kang character are Feige's fault for loosening his grip on the MCU and letting the creators have too much play in their projects. Going from the last episode of Loki S1 where HWR is giving portents of how horrific it will be to let all his variants loose on the Multiverse to then show us the first of these horrors-across-time being chumped by ants was a very large let-down that no doubt was part of the initial viewer reaction that sapped QM's word-of-mouth for following weekends.
By most every account I've read Jim Shooter was a hard-ass to work for, but he was in charge of one of the very highest peaks of Marvel Comics for about a solid decade and coordinating all those different creators onto shared stories was part of why that period was so good.
IMHO, QuantuMania's failure and partially the failure of the Kang character are Feige's fault for loosening his grip on the MCU and letting the creators have too much play in their projects.
This might partially be the fault of how successful Ragnarok was with looser style. But even that film returned to its basic plot and theme rails when it needed.
I think a big part still is how they felt they needed to scale every character up to go to another dimension, travel thru time or fight something that could destroy the universe. Not only did it feel samey it sort of robs the energy of the characters when they do enter the larger universe. Ms Marvel in Shang Chi in particular should have remained more intimate stories. Those parts of the projects really worked.
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