Doctor Who - Past and Future Discussion
Thought there might be a few fans of The Doctor at The Fwoosh who would like to discuss the new specials and the upcoming new season. And the past 60 years as well...
I thought the first two specials of Tennant's return were enjoyable - we will see how the third one goes. I was expecting more of a 3-parter or inter-connected story to be honest, especially to justify why back to this face, and I was kind of hoping that he would have the face of Ten but act differently, separating the appearance from the personality a bit more...
Having Tennant/Tate back for a few episodes seems like a palate cleanser decision, given the less-than-positive reaction to much of the Chibnell era, in order to provide some breathing room for Ncuti Gatwa's Doctor to get a handoff without needing to link to the past as much. I liked Jodie, but like Peter Davison she was a little too normal/low-key for the role, missing the "alien" spark the character needs, and Chibnell's stories just didn't see too memorable or clever I thought to have much of an impact. I also think it helps when the companions carry over for a bit, as they had to work to get four characters going at one time with Jodie.
But Gatwa should have that "spark" to be The Doctor, we will see.
I just finished the first series of 13's run. She's ok for me. Neither offending nor pleasing. I'm also starting the show from the beginning off of BritBox. I guess I have alot to catch up on! 😆
I'm also starting the show from the beginning off of BritBox.
The beginning, beginning - Hartnell in 1963? That will take some time!
The pacing of the show was very different in those days, let me know what you think! I started watching in the mid-70s with Tom Baker....
An Unearthly Child was OK. I think it focused too much on the Cavemen stuff than on the new characters of a new show but whatever. I look forward to the The Daleks debut. 👍
Donna Noble is my second favorite fictional character of all time and I am THRILLED to see her back in glorious action! I hated her ending and I love that in TVLand it's something that can be revisited 15 years later and be fixed. Magic of TV - and Who. 🙂
Tennant and Tate are definitely a palate cleanser and a brilliant idea to reinvigorate the show and create anticipation instead of apprehension - or worse, apathy - for the new Doctor. I loved that the second special was all about them, but I hate that the conversation I so wanted them to have got interrupted. Why can't these two just go get a coffee somewhere nice and chat for an hour? That's what I would most like to watch. To be fair, they did have A coffee but that didn't go well...
I really thought the series was coming to Disney+ and I was all set to finally watch Jodie's seasons, but... no word on when the show is coming. Or if.
Despite hearing all good things for years about Sex Education, I'd never turned it on and then when Ncuti was cast I figured he would be fresh for me as The Doctor. Well, I started watching and the show is very, very good. I'm hoping he plays The Doctor very different from Eric, but my anticipation for the new season keeps growing.
Are there any rumblings about possibly getting a new Donna figure from Character options? I'd take a Bride version, I want the DoctorDonna brown leather coat version, or the pink/red/green look she just sported - anything!
@schizm I think that the Eccleston to Whitaker series is remaining on Max or HBOMax or whatever it is called, and is not moving to Disney+ for now.
Not sure about figures from the new seasons. I will be shocked if CO does not make a 15 and the new companion figures at least, not sure about Donna - and I will note that they never made a Wilf which is a shame. The main forum I went to for Doctor Who toy news closed last year and I haven't found a great replacement so I may be out of the loop.
I kind of like the idea of a Doctor who is retired, which could maybe lead into The Curator or possibly The Valeyard, down the line, so no problem with the split of regeneration. What I didn't like was the second TARDIS - if the idea is a Doctor who doesn't know who he is without his gadgets and tech, yet they left him with the tech. And the TARDIS is sentient, it seems like it got cloned without being asked? In any case, a soft reboot works if in effect the 10/14 Doctor has kept all the angst of the companions suffering and the weight of his legacy and massive "the universe is ending" stories and 15 is back to being adventure guy dealing with local problems on some planet.
In the New Who, I generally preferred Moffat to Davies as showrunner, in part because of some of things in this episode - Moffat would have taken the time to explain that the weapon that UNIT had did something to disrupt the flow of energy and atomic processes as its weaponry, so that when it hit the Doctor it triggered a regeneration that went sideways - maybe even have the regeneration happen while in the beam. That's a subtle thing, but Davies does things like pull the Earth through space which is more fantastical and sci-fi. Which is OK, but the idea the Doctor talking about a superstition on the edge of the universe allowed the Toymaker to come into reality... Meh.
But I did enjoy it, I like Gatwa, he ought to be very good in the role.
The rumored UNIT spinoff could include the various old companions (Mel, Tegan, Ace, Donna) and maybe the Doctor at times.
I just binged all three episodes. They were pretty good. A retired Doctor is interesting. I guess he'll always be around if the ratings sag again! 😆 I'm looking forward to the Christmas special.
Enjoyable first episode for Ncuti. I will be curious what direction they take his characterization in. Hard to say so far...
Davies does the fantastical parts of sci-fi well but his story resolutions (from a logical standpoint) sometimes don't work all that well for me. This definitely had a bit of "Rose" (the first story of New Who) structure in how we spent as much with the new companion's backstory as the threat.
Will be curious if Ruby's birth mom is a plot point.