We need to start a new thread about how crap the new Hasbro Pulse website has become. Ok, I select United States for both the country code on my phone number as well as my shipping location...okay those fields are still staying blank despite being selected. Attempt this another 4 times. Select "review payment" and it keeps saying the credit card that's neither expired nor changed since my last purchase needs review. After fighting with that, I just scrap it and go to reinput the info. Okay now it's saying this is not a valid credit card. Someone inform Visa that their credit rating is bunk according to Hasbro. Give up and go back to cart and start all over. Reinput all the information only to be sent to review the info every time I click the "review payment" button. In frustration click the "review payment" button 3 times. Get sent to the "order confirmed" page, finally without logical rhyme or reason. That was the magical riddle! Clicking the review payment button 3 times. The Dungeons and Dragons team must be heading the website design department now!
Heaven help anyone trying to preorder anything that's quick to sell out. Maybe the Has-bro's will see this and realize everyone's not ordering from a phone, and the last time I attempted to order from a phone it was the country code select pulldown menu on the phone number that was the hold up (but never illuminated or pointed this out).
Very intuitive. Maybe make the missing info or whatever the snag is illuminate red or point out what is wrong like every other storefront website in the last 20 years. Ordering stuff from Japanese sites is less hassle.
Love everything about Dragon Man except those unarticulated wings. Why do bunches of articulated wings with Archangel, Angel, Sauron, King Venom, etc and now stop with one of the line's most premium figures?
I suppose Diamond and NECA usually make the same choice with wings, so perhaps there are multiple reasons to not use them I'm unaware of. Certainly no articulation ALWAYS looks better than articulated anything, but these are action figures. Why go away from the action on a major component like wings? There really is a big split among sculptors choosing to implement wings as one piece or several, but plenty do go for the articulation. Medicom skipped it a few years ago with their Mafex Wonder Woman 84 figure, but then Storm Collectibles did use multiple segments with their Tekken Devil Jin figure. If Medicom ever does an Angel or ArchAngel I'm guessing we will get no articulated wings as well, and most of me wants to skip that future figure when they likely do make that choice. Most of me wants to skip Dragon Man now, but I'm sure I'll cave since the rest of the figure looks phenomenal.
Angel did it very well earlier this year with three segments per wing. Why go away from that for Dragon Man? 🤔 It forced them to make the weird decision for what pose to put the half-folded wings into. When would he have them only half-spread? Birds usually only deploy their wings in two ways--fully out while flying, and fully folded up while not. Certainly there are times when they use them half-folded such as when they're grooming, interacting with other birds while not flying, or considering taking flight but not doing it quite yet, but those situations are a small minority of their time. When would Dragon Man have his half-spread out? When Dwight said the figure would come with folded-up wings I was picturing fully-folded up for when he's on the ground. Why the half spread?
I don't have the shelf space or the connection to this character to warrant a purchase. Looks pretty good and the price seems fair. I do hope that this guy sends the aftermarket price on Toybiz Dragon Man plummeting so I can afford one. That guy I can fit pretty much anywhere on a shelf.
I have $50 right now for your TB Dragon Man to put toward the new one!
I don't have the shelf space or the connection to this character to warrant a purchase. Looks pretty good and the price seems fair. I do hope that this guy sends the aftermarket price on Toybiz Dragon Man plummeting so I can afford one. That guy I can fit pretty much anywhere on a shelf.
I have $50 right now for your TB Dragon Man to put toward the new one!
Honestly, the old one will take just as much space. The old one's tail sticks out back while the new one has the multi-articulated tail that can just hang down, saving depth. The new one won't be that much wider (with the narrow wings) than the old one. Just sayin', if you have room for the old one, you have room for the new one.
Oh, and since these aren't Haslabs, I'm hoping for at least 2 oversized figs per year.
Considering this thing isn't due to ship for like 10 more months - that seems... far fetched? But I guess if it's a runaway hit maybe they fast track the next thing.
It does seem unlikely for this year, but if this is a success I would absolutely be down for two per year. If they all come out roughly equal to this price/value ratio and are all newly made characters or costumes? Hell yeah, break out the list and start cranking through them.
My point was I don't think it's likely for next year, at least not in terms of release. Maybe in terms of sale. If they are doing these on the same pre-order before production basis with a 10 month lead time between sales period and shipping they'd have to put another one up for order by like December or January to have any hope of shipping it in 2025.
But if what you are saying is that they get into an 'every six month' cadence of pre-order sales, so in March they offer another one and then next September another and so, on... then yes, that is perfectly realistic.
Oh, and since these aren't Haslabs, I'm hoping for at least 2 oversized figs per year.
Considering this thing isn't due to ship for like 10 more months - that seems... far fetched? But I guess if it's a runaway hit maybe they fast track the next thing.
It does seem unlikely for this year, but if this is a success I would absolutely be down for two per year. If they all come out roughly equal to this price/value ratio and are all newly made characters or costumes? Hell yeah, break out the list and start cranking through them.
My point was I don't think it's likely for next year, at least not in terms of release. Maybe in terms of sale. If they are doing these on the same pre-order before production basis with a 10 month lead time between sales period and shipping they'd have to put another one up for order by like December or January to have any hope of shipping it in 2025.
But if what you are saying is that they get into an 'every six month' cadence of pre-order sales, so in March they offer another one and then next September another and so, on... then yes, that is perfectly realistic.
Yeah that's what I meant, just general enthusiasm for the model and hoping to see more of it rather than expecting else to show up soon. You make a good point though - they don't have to wait until this ships to know how well it sold, they'll have all the information they need by the close of the preorder on 10/17. Hopefully 1) this does well, and 2) they have the next few things in some stage of development that they can carry forward. They might want to wait before this ships before putting another one up for preorder, but there's no big question on if they can deliver. I'd happily put in another preorder for Awesome Android or Clint Barton Goliath in March 2025.
I can actually pretty easily forsee a time when a very large portion of this line becomes made to order as the retail presence continues to die off. There seem to be only a handful of characters that actually sell well at retail now that we've hit $25 price points and beyond.
I'm fairly certain that Dan Yun mentioned during SDCC that they already have a second figure in the pipeline for this preorder model. When that will get revealed? Who knows, maybe at Pulsecon with a late 2024/early 2025 preorder window. It's not like they don't reveal stuff all the time and say "check back later for preorders." So they could easily show off another figure, much like with Dragon Man, and leave us hanging for when it will go up for preorder.
As for Dragon Man. I'm with everyone else about being pleasantly surprised by the price. Probably going to order two since it will be future Canprime's problem to pay for it a year from now.
An announcement of another one during the sale window of the 1st might encourage sales if the new offering looks promising. Or that might be their impression.
And the 6 month release schedule is what I meant as well. They will have the sale numbers on Dragon Man soon, and it sounds like most are happy and many will be buying it. So I'd love to see a work-up of a new character in a few months with pre-orders for it in March.
Toy producers reference all of the time how they're "living in year 202X" when talking about development. In order for Hasbro to put up another release in this style in six months would mean they have already planned for it, and it sounds like they may have. I would think if they had any degree of optimism about Dragon Man being a success then they would have something on the calendar as a follow-up. When it goes up is anyone's guess, but I would caution anyone expecting Hasbro to respond to the demand for Dragon Man by doing another preorder release early next year to maybe lower their expectations. Or just hope they've already planned for that. Hasbro has to book factory space like everyone else so they can't just ram something into production on a whim, otherwise we would have seen refreshers for X-Men '97 after demand skyrocketed on some of those figures. Working in the favor of something like Dragon Man is that it's unique tooling so Hasbro doesn't have to make sure certain tools are available (I've heard them reference such when people ask why something isn't pinless - because the pinless tools were in production for a different figure) and it's pretty much a straight line for production. It's a longer production cycle because of the tools needed to create it (as evidenced by the 10 month production cycle estimated here), but at least it's independent.
Gonna pre-order soon, hyped for this and hoping 2025 is a really good year for Fantastic Four and Legends overall. This guy looks perfect, is the right price and I want more like it.
I didn't see reactions on the socials - bitching about this is embarrassing if that's what's happening.
Toy producers reference all of the time how they're "living in year 202X" when talking about development. In order for Hasbro to put up another release in this style in six months would mean they have already planned for it, and it sounds like they may have.
That's the production life cycle though when they're talking 1+ years into the future. Dragon Man is entirely a prototype right now that won't be coming out for 11+ months, so they don't have to work 12 to 18 months in advance for the next super-deluxe figure pre-order; they just have to get it designed and fully prototyped to get final sculpt, articulation, accessories, and promo images done. What would that be--maybe 4 to 8 months?
If they've already chosen the next one it's entirely possible for it to go up for pre-order in 6 months. if they've got any type of early design images or prototype at PulseCon this week this week then it's in the bag for going up in 3 to 6 months.
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