@normdapito Interestingly, this seems to be more popular with the casuals than the hardcores. I'm a casual and I backed this early.

I ain't HEARD no fat lady.

Even if it falls short it will get close.

Two Haslabs have gotten vaguely close but not made it--Transformers Unicron and Star Wars Rancor.  Unicron ended at 5,575 out of 8,000, and the Rancor ended up at 8,454 out of 9,000.  Hasbro extended the Unicron campaign by an extra month, but they let the Rancor die.  Why did they extend Unicron when it was pretty far away from the goal, but they let the Rancor die when it was VERY close to the finish line?

The answer is customer vibes.  The feedback from the fanbase for Unicron was very positive, whereas the feedback about the Rancor was EXTREMELY negative.  So Hasbro extended Unicron, and it easily made the goal and exceeded it--that campaign finished above 10,000 backers.  My guess is that they let the Rancor die due to all of the, err, rancor about the Rancor.  😎 

So let's say we do get close but not quite make it.  The question then becomes will they extend it?  Hard to say, but I lean heavily towards yes.  The feedback so far has been mostly positive.  People's reasons for not wanting to back it have been mostly valid personal reasoning; there hasn't been a ton of complaining about the product itself, rather only justifications for why they didn't want it--it's bigger than they can fit, not enough bundled figures to spark their interest, etc.  None of that is particularly derogatory about Hasbro or the Legends team, it's just personal justification for why they do or don't want it.

But then again after Unicron I felt certain they would extend the Rancor since it was RIGHT there at the finish line.  But I wasn't completely shocked that they didn't because the Star Wars team took a TON of flak about that project.  My guess is that the Hasbro execs didn't want another month of bad PR surrounding that campaign.  The Legends team took a bunch of harsh criticism about the Engine of Vengeance, but not nearly as much as the Star Wars team did.  I haven't seen anywhere near those same levels of ill will around Giant-Man, so if it gets close but doesn't make it this time I do expect they will extend it.  If they don't I will DEFINITELY be shocked this time, but who knows, we'll see.

It's a good point about the differences in the campaigns. I was surprised in the moment that they didn't extend Rancor since they did for Unicron, but on reflection it makes perfect sense - that was a nasty campaign, and it kind of seemed like everyone just wanted it to be over and done with. I agree that this hasn't been the same - for every person on social media who levels a critique about the offering, you have three more who think it's properly calibrated for price/value, even if they don't want it. Only the people who are most fully conditioned to be angry at everything Hasbro touches seem to have a problem with this, but the level-heads are drowning them out.

I'm still optimistic overall though! Still 5 days to go, and a lot of backers show up at the end. Announcing Wasp is only a good thing in my eyes, and hopefully it motivates more people to move on it.

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I’m sure there are plenty of valid reasons people don’t want this figure. Size, costume preference, it doesn’t really matter, any reason is valid. I’m just disappointed that not enough people DO want it. I don’t think the 10k goal was lofty, but I’m genuinely surprised that this far along, it’s not even close to reaching that goal. I don’t think that means those who don’t want this aren’t die hard collectors. Nor does it say anything for the quality of the offering. But there seems to be clear fatigue in what and how people are buying, and reasons for not backing are not completely uncalled for. From my PoV, it’s just really disappointing. I also don’t think Hasbro will be in a hurry to try this character again at a smaller scale. I think we will be waiting quite a while before another large scale Pym is ever attempted no matter what costume.

I think a lot of collectors DO want it, but the recurring reason I see for not backing it is the lack of space. I'm in that same boat. I only backed it because I'm an Ant-Man & Avengers fan but I seriously don't know how I'll display it aside from maybe crouching? He doesn't fit on any standard bookshelves or detolfs, which is what majority of collectors use. Any space they DID have to fit Giant-Man is probably already taken up by Sentinel or Galactus. 

My fellow collector friends who have the Sentinel/Galactus didn't back Giant-Man due to the same reason. They mentioned they only have space in their collection for one Haslab & it ain't gonna be for a B-list character. Backing the initial Haslabs were fun & exciting, but now they actually got the boxes in hand & realizing how much space it ACTUALLY takes up.

A lot of people like to make the comparison of the project costing only a little more than a full wave, but not realizing how many people would indeed choose a whole wave over one extremely oversized figure.

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Posted by: @dathing

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Soooo...wouldn't it be a good MARKETING STRATEGY to at least put that out into public view so people know it and can be better informed on if they wanted to back it or not?

Apparently Hasbro thinks it's a great strategy.  I think that Wasp looks amazing.

 

ABOUT TIME! Nothing like waiting until the last minute. 😅 

Looks good, glad to FINALLY get a classic 1st appearance Wasp...in 6" scale anyway. 

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Posted by: @fac

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I would like to think that if it is over 9,000 by the time it closes that they extend the deadline. 

The Rancor, despite all its problems, had a big push on the last day and closed at 8533 with a goal of 9,000. And there was no extension. I wouldn’t expect one here either. If we are going to do it, it has to be by Monday 

 

I was very surprised by that as I was watching that transpire, but I wonder if they felt after all the adjustments they tried to get the Rancor moving that the minimum wasn't enough. That almost seemed like they wanted to not go ahead at that point.

But why annoy 9,000 customers if you don't try to get to 1,000 more over a couple of extra days?

Question about how Pym's suit works.  I haven't read a ton of comics with him in it, but I've seen the films.  I've read a few dozen comics, but none of them explained how his powers work.  In the film they said that when he shrinks his mass stays the same, so if he's 175 pounds full size then he's still 175 pounds while he's tiny, which is how he's able to punch full-size humans while tiny and still pack the usual whollop.

So how does his mass work when he grows?  Is it the same--is he his regular weight when he's bigger?  Implicitly I can tell that the answer is no, he isn't--his mass clearly increases greatly when he grows.  That's evident by how he easily picks up humans with one hand, kicks trucks, tears the wing off of an airplane, etc.  Why does it work differently with his mass increasing when he grows larger, does anyone know?

Hypothetically I wonder what advantage it would even be if he could grow but still weight 175 pounds.  I guess he can reach a lot higher, but beyond that I'm not sure why spacing out his atoms and retaining the same mass would be something anyone would want.

I’ve backed 5 since day 1

ive done my part

if you hate money, Marvel Legends, or life in general don’t back this. 

otherwise consider backing the MAX amount.

keyword is consider

The original Giant Man was a pain to complete 

it took 10 figures. If there are no more Marvel Haslabs after this I wouldn’t mind but it’s gonna suck if this one doesn’t go thru

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Question about how Pym's suit works.  I haven't read a ton of comics with him in it, but I've seen the films.  I've read a few dozen comics, but none of them explained how his powers work.  In the film they said that when he shrinks his mass stays the same, so if he's 175 pounds full size then he's still 175 pounds while he's tiny, which is how he's able to punch full-size humans while tiny and still pack the usual whollop.

So how does his mass work when he grows?  Is it the same--is he his regular weight when he's bigger?  Implicitly I can tell that the answer is no, he isn't--his mass clearly increases greatly when he grows.  That's evident by how he easily picks up humans with one hand, kicks trucks, tears the wing off of an airplane, etc.  Why does it work differently with his mass increasing when he grows larger, does anyone know?

Hypothetically I wonder what advantage it would even be if he could grow but still weight 175 pounds.  I guess he can reach a lot higher, but beyond that I'm not sure why spacing out his atoms and retaining the same mass would be something anyone would want.

technically he doesn’t weigh 175 pounds when he shrinks

he has to be lighter than a feather to ride Hawkeyes arrows 

see Marvel vs Capcom 3 Hawkeye ultimate level 3 finisher

See

Ants by nature are strong

ive read something along the lines that they can lift 25 times their body weight 

if a human could do that that is equivalent to 4000 pounds

Giant Man is also not over scaled, as seen in video his foot stomped on Magneto

Legends team should do a Marvel vs Capcom wave

if we ever see Capcom release a new sequel