I gotta believe Hasbro tries to sweeten the pot with this Haslab at Pulse Con. I know there's a month left but considering it hasn't even hit 50% yet, this seriously needs a jolt. At 40-50 backers a day (if it even keeps that up in the dog days of the campaign) it's only gonna push past 6,000.
I think we're gonna see what kind of difference figure tiers or bonuses make.
Based upon comic appearances, here is some hard data. The only 2 comic book characters that have appeared in over 20,000 issues are Batman and Donald Duck. For Marvel only:
15,000+ issues: Only Spider-Man and Wolverine
10,000+ issues: Captain America, Cyclops, Iron Man, Storm
I am curious about the source of this data. How can Storm, a character that has been around for 50 years, average 200 comic appearances a year since that time? That's an average of nearly 17 comic book appearances a month for 50 years. Even Spidey and Batman at their peak would be in half a dozen books a month on average. Is this US, first publication only?
I'm also curious about the data source and what constitutes and appearance.
CMRO lists Storm as having appeared in 1,784 issues. Spider-Man at 4,270. Wolverine at 3,224.
Complete Marvel Reading Order | Marvel Comics in Order (travis-starnes.com)
Now, I have no idea how accurate CMRO is with their data, but there is a huge difference between 4,000 appearances and 15,000 appearances. CMRO does have each of the issues listed, so if one really wanted to dig in, there is a least some information to verify.
I gotta believe Hasbro tries to sweeten the pot with this Haslab at Pulse Con. I know there's a month left but considering it hasn't even hit 50% yet, this seriously needs a jolt. At 40-50 backers a day (if it even keeps that up in the dog days of the campaign) it's only gonna push past 6,000.
I think we're gonna see what kind of difference figure tiers or bonuses make.
They'll be fine if it's at 6,000 with a few days left. We know the last few days are good for several thousand backers. Call them the FOMO group. This hits all stretch goals if it's around 6K near the end.
I gotta believe Hasbro tries to sweeten the pot with this Haslab at Pulse Con. I know there's a month left but considering it hasn't even hit 50% yet, this seriously needs a jolt. At 40-50 backers a day (if it even keeps that up in the dog days of the campaign) it's only gonna push past 6,000.
I think we're gonna see what kind of difference figure tiers or bonuses make.
They'll be fine if it's at 6,000 with a few days left. We know the last few days are good for several thousand backers. Call them the FOMO group. This hits all stretch goals if it's around 6K near the end.
Agreed. Obviously I'd prefer it to have already funded by now but I think it's in a fine spot only a few weeks in. Plus I suspect they'll show off some things at PulseCon that will see another spike in numbers - not necessarily adding anything to the campaign, but some complementary products to get people excited (FA Wasp, gold Mk 1 Iron Man for an OG Avengers, etc).
- As for next Haslab, Foom or Surtur would be the 2 comic based ones that would make sense to me.
But eventually I think a MCU Haslab is going to be attempted. Off hand 2 Haslabs I would be into from the MCU would be Leviathans from Avengers (which I think would be most likely thing...could do those and offer Chitari or The Other as tiers, and then do the Chitari later on as a rerelease in some form). Another idea I would pitch, but I don't think would get funded but I would personally like would be a set of 4 Hammer Drones from Iron Man 2, 1 for each branch of the military. Throw in Justin Hammer, and boom! You got me. Just 2 MCU ideas I thought of off hand. I guess Arishem could technically be one, but Eternals I don't think was successful enough to warrant the attempt. So even if they deem the comic Haslab options are dry, they still have options
If they are doing an MCU Haslab I would expect the Milano. Even in 1/12 scale it should be about the size of the Ghost.
@threash I think the EoV turned them off of vehicles for Haslabs. So I don't think it would be viable. Even if the scale is off, I still think of the MCU products, the Leviathans make the most sense, especially cause there is stuff you can offer as tiers thay would appeal to MCU collectors and get them excited.
- As for next Haslab, Foom or Surtur would be the 2 comic based ones that would make sense to me.
But eventually I think a MCU Haslab is going to be attempted. Off hand 2 Haslabs I would be into from the MCU would be Leviathans from Avengers (which I think would be most likely thing...could do those and offer Chitari or The Other as tiers, and then do the Chitari later on as a rerelease in some form). Another idea I would pitch, but I don't think would get funded but I would personally like would be a set of 4 Hammer Drones from Iron Man 2, 1 for each branch of the military. Throw in Justin Hammer, and boom! You got me. Just 2 MCU ideas I thought of off hand. I guess Arishem could technically be one, but Eternals I don't think was successful enough to warrant the attempt. So even if they deem the comic Haslab options are dry, they still have options
If they are doing an MCU Haslab I would expect the Milano. Even in 1/12 scale it should be about the size of the Ghost.
I don't see how the Milano could work at 1/12th. The ship's wings are 2/3rds the entire width. Proportionally, the Milano's wings are way wider compared to the center fuselage. That would mean for the fuselage of the Milano to have any compartments or space to fit Legends figures, the overall width of the toy would have to be way wider than the 28" that is the Ghost.
Big MCU person here and I've never even thought of wanting a Leviathan. And still have zero desire. I'm not opposed to Chitauri ML, but the MS work really well on a shelf and fulfills that need. This is a cool package idea, but I don't think it would work.
Still hope to get an MCU Giant Giant-Man at some point, though.
Big MCU person here and I've never even thought of wanting a Leviathan. And still have zero desire. I'm not opposed to Chitauri ML, but the MS work really well on a shelf and fulfills that need. This is a cool package idea, but I don't think it would work.
Still hope to get an MCU Giant Giant-Man at some point, though.
Just not sure what I'd do with a giant worm guy, either.
I'd hang him from the ceiling with fishing line! He would look really cool! Same with my Blackbird and Quinjet!
Same, the only positive for the leviathan is that it's the correct size. Demand just wouldn't be there for some random monster that is not a main bad guy or even a secondary named mook. If Giant Man succeeds we might see an equally sized MCU giant man. If vehicles are out since both the Milano and Quinnjet would be way too large the only other thing I could see working is a hall of armor playset, with house party protocol suits as stretch goals.
@schizm I wouldn't want the 1st Haslab we get from the MCU to be essentially same thing they offered one other time. I don't think that would be at least the 1st thing they'd do. I personally am fine with my current Civil War deluxe Giant-Man. I don't want a 24in one myself.
Based upon comic appearances, here is some hard data. The only 2 comic book characters that have appeared in over 20,000 issues are Batman and Donald Duck. For Marvel only:
15,000+ issues: Only Spider-Man and Wolverine
10,000+ issues: Captain America, Cyclops, Iron Man, Storm
I am curious about the source of this data. How can Storm, a character that has been around for 50 years, average 200 comic appearances a year since that time? That's an average of nearly 17 comic book appearances a month for 50 years. Even Spidey and Batman at their peak would be in half a dozen books a month on average. Is this US, first publication only?
I'm also curious about the data source and what constitutes and appearance.
CMRO lists Storm as having appeared in 1,784 issues. Spider-Man at 4,270. Wolverine at 3,224.
Complete Marvel Reading Order | Marvel Comics in Order (travis-starnes.com)
Now, I have no idea how accurate CMRO is with their data, but there is a huge difference between 4,000 appearances and 15,000 appearances. CMRO does have each of the issues listed, so if one really wanted to dig in, there is a least some information to verify.
My source is ComicVine. I've been using that site for many years as my primary point of reference for comic characters. I'm not familiar with the site that you mentioned. I like ComicVine because the data is downloadable and includes all comic book companies, large and small. I haven't personally found another source like this.
If you have data from a different source and the definitions are different, then I'd still expect the character tiers to be mostly the same, even if the actual appearance counts themselves of those characters might not be. I'd still expect the exact same characters to have the most appearances.
It is interesting to see that on this particular campaign, they did a lot of things that people have been asking them to do all along, but it still seems to be subject to the same heavy initial backing followed by the drop off and slow climb. I’m not shocked, I just wish there were more outright enthusiasm since this is the last Haslab for Marvel I can think of that I would have called a “slam-dunk.”
I know the reaction here was mixed to negative, but the EOV not making it has made Legends less exciting for me the past year, I’ve even considered selling mine off and focusing only on Classified, not out of sour grapes but it was the first time I felt like even as successful as ML has been this time out, it’s still finite, I’m not going to get every character I ever wanted. I was never going to, but I thought way more people would be as excited as I was to get so many all new, never been done releases. I understand why some weren’t, but for me after being involved with Legends for over two decades now, I get excited about things they’ve never done, as opposed to a new body type so they can make a couple dozen of the same characters yet again. I’m hoping something at Pulsecon gets me hyped like I was before, I wanted a chance to finally own Giant Man for years and now I feel very disconnected from it all even though I have no complaints about how it was done.
The ComicVine list of all comic issues Storm has appeared in:
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/storm/4005-1444/issues-cover/
Right on the first page you can see why they cite so many appearances--they're listing foreign versions of comics separately. So the same appearance ends up counting many times depending upon how many different languages it got translated into.
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