Looks like the, err, healthy dialogue around HasLab has picked back up.
... the bonus figures are almost a lose/lose proposition. Either people are enraged that someone seminal to their collection is locked behind a $400 paywall, or it's someone nearly anonymous like Morg who's met with shrugs.
I think the best avenue is Morg and something like the Cobra Commander with the paint error, but that does very little to move the needle. The GI Joe tank commanders were also a good idea, but that's almost impossible to replicate on the Marvel side.
Glad Hasbro came to the same conclusion here. I know folks wanted Wasp and Jarvis, but there's no reason those figures can't come out through Fan Channel next year.
I really like the face plates, too, even if I'd chuck all four alternates in a bin until the end of time. They take up a lot less space than alternate heads.
I feel like $200 is incredibly reasonable. A 24" figure with a unique sculpt, gorgeous textures and shading, and a ton of articulation. I want this desperately, but HasLab isn't for me as currently constructed. My display consists of two packed Detolf cases and I'm not pulling an entire shelf to get a 24" figure in there. Sadly, Hank Pym will only exist in .25" ant-riding form on my shelf.
There was a user who posted this gorgeous display in the Marvel forum pre-nuke.
I can't remember his username (something-Zero?) but I had messaged him to ask what the cabinet was and he kindly pointed me towards this: https://www.amazon.com/5-Shelf-Glass-Curio-Cabinet-Black/dp/B00FPGP4KA/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=COASTER%2B5-Shelf%2BGlass%2BCurio%2BCabinet%2BBlack%2Band%2BClear&qid=1685980870&sr=8-5&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.c3015c4a-46bb-44b9-81a4-dc28e6d374b3&th=1
It's wider than a detolf but roughly the same height, and he uses custom cut acrylic for the angled shelves. We're (hopefully) relocating in the next year into a forever house, so I'm not putting any new money into my display until I know what kind of space I'll be working with. But this is definitely an aspiration, especially with a cabinet that would line up nicely with my existing detolfs. A similar display with Giant-Man surrounding by flying Avengers is very easy to imagine.
Man, don't tempt me with this. 😆 It's basically a Detolf and a half wide at twice the price. I'd think about replacing one of my cases with it or even just adding it to my current setup, but I'm wary of how the double doors would look in front of my figures.
Another one of your posts in this thread has me ready to tear my Avengers display apart, though:
After many, many years of basically my whole collection living in boxes I was finally able to get a few shelves set up earlier this year. I'm glad I'll be able to enjoy this guy on full display for at least another year until his replacement shows up...
While the HasLab figures have all been too big for my tastes (and my space), the Toy Biz Giant-Man appears tailor-made for Detolf shelves. If I can get my hands on the Toy Biz figure for a reasonable price next year...
Probably gonna back this at some point, it looks really cool. I wonder if the eyes move?
Admittedly, I haven't read all these post. What I don't understand is why it's bad to get a classic Wasp as a stretch goal. If they just release the same figure to the general public once the Haslab ships, who cares? I don't need some exclusive to feel special. Just make it free for backers if it hits a certain funding and release it to everyone else after. Would that really upset anyone?
I'd much rather get that than some different faces/ heads.
I may be wrong, but what I feel was the backlash on the Ghost Rider campaign wasn't that the extra figures were included. It was that it was the only way to get them was that fans had to buy a modern Haslab to get more classic figures.
Unless the extras are intrinsically tied to the main item, just release them after in a different package. I don't see the problem.
Admittedly, I haven't read all these post. What I don't understand is why it's bad to get a classic Wasp as a stretch goal. If they just release the same figure to the general public once the Haslab ships, who cares? I don't need some exclusive to feel special. Just make it free for backers if it hits a certain funding and release it to everyone else after. Would that really upset anyone?
I'd much rather get that than some different faces/ heads.
I may be wrong, but what I feel was the backlash on the Ghost Rider campaign wasn't that the extra figures were included. It was that it was the only way to get them was that fans had to buy a modern Haslab to get more classic figures.
Unless the extras are intrinsically tied to the main item, just release them after in a different package. I don't see the problem.
yeah, it was a little disingenuous of them to say that the the extra figures was the lesson they learned from EoV when they clearly ALSO learned a) don’t screw us over on price, fans can do the math b) no early birds, we can’t handle not getting something we ‘could have had’
but I honestly am ok with it and I hope they keep this barebones style next year when they do Fin Fang Foom who I don’t care about, and I don’t want any 6 inch figures tied to it enticing me.
So begins another Haslab:
Giant-Man:
3324 / 10,000 (day one) 33.24% of funding goal with 44d 17h left.
I like the looks of this, but I'm not sure how much it offers in value. I think the price is good, but maybe, as others have mentioned, it would have been better to just sell this as an Pulse exclusive like Boba Fett's Throne Room. So it keeps the price, but everything is included and not some, in my opinion, fairly weak tiers.
I wonder how much no figures as tiers will affect backing. No real way to know for sure though. Also the start was good, but definitely not as strong as other recent Haslabs. I stick with my worry that this could struggle to get funded. However the price really should help in that area.
Now to see how this plays out online (Youtubers, influencers, etc). Will it be like the Engine of Vengeance (negative), or will it be positive? Maybe it will not even get much traction?
What I don't understand is why it's bad to get a classic Wasp as a stretch goal. If they just release the same figure to the general public once the Haslab ships, who cares? I don't need some exclusive to feel special. Just make it free for backers if it hits a certain funding and release it to everyone else after.
It's bad because nothing has ever been "free for backers," and price was the biggest complaint people had about the last Haslab. That inspired Ryan to pare it down to the lowest price he could this time, so he saved a lot of the budget by cheaping out on the tiers that clearly people were misunderstanding as "free."
They also saved by sticking to what they know. Last time they outsourced the design to someone else who knew more about cars, and they went all-out on the deco. But they weren't able to communicate just how detailed that deco was and most people wanted more of a HasMart campaign than a HasLab, so message received--they toned the engineering down this time. Had this preceded the Engine of Vengeance we probably would have gotten much of what people were hypothesizing--Wasp, an unmasked head, more accessories, giant ants, and maybe even a 10" to 14" Goliath or Stature.
Maybe someone already pointed this out, but the BAF isn't obsoleted by this HasLab. The same was true for Sentinels and Galactus, but it's doubly true this time since Pym's entire schtick is varying his size. I don't even have the BAF because market prices were too high, but I'll be on the lookout for a cheaper one now hoping there's a wave of people dumping them.
If they had to do a Haslab, this is a reasonable choice. I hope it gets funded for those who want it, not interested personally. A BAF or deluxe figure approx the same size as the mcu Giant-Man figure with similar articulation would have sufficed for me, personally. Don't need all the hand articulation etc but again its Haslab so its understandable they would want to make this more deluxe.
I think they were smart to create tiers that are useless without the main offering. No complaints about character X being stuck being a $400 paywall or whatever. For those mentioning Wasp, c'mon they can easily release her at retail, probably around the time the haslab ships, and as part of 2-pack with a repaint of some figure we already all own. That's just how Hasbro rolls. As for Jarvis, eh maybe in a box set someday.
@enigmaticclarity Agreed—probably will be some cool displays of Pym figures lined up showing him growing from an Ant-Man mini-figure to the 6” figure to the Toy Biz BAF and up to the Haslab. Bet that would make an awesome display.
Probably gonna back this at some point, it looks really cool. I wonder if the eyes move?
They don’t but they are painted on a translucent plastic to give them more realism at that size.
So begins another Haslab:
Giant-Man:
3324 / 10,000 (day one) 33.24% of funding goal with 44d 17h left.
I like the looks of this, but I'm not sure how much it offers in value. I think the price is good, but maybe, as others have mentioned, it would have been better to just sell this as an Pulse exclusive like Boba Fett's Throne Room. So it keeps the price, but everything is included and not some, in my opinion, fairly weak tiers.
I wonder how much no figures as tiers will affect backing. No real way to know for sure though. Also the start was good, but definitely not as strong as other recent Haslabs. I stick with my worry that this could struggle to get funded. However the price really should help in that area.
Now to see how this plays out online (Youtubers, influencers, etc). Will it be like the Engine of Vengeance (negative), or will it be positive? Maybe it will not even get much traction?
How does his trajectory compare to the prior Marvel HasLabs? Or the other ones, both successful and unsuccessful?
It seems a little slow to me. I thought most of the funding happened in the first weekend and last two or three days.
I backed it right away, as I’ve done with all the previous Marvel HasLabs. Just concerned that despite the lower price, the lack of any figures as tiers hurts the perceived value.
Here's a situation where I really miss the old threads.
It does seem to be going slower to me, too. I don't think I'd be worried at this point, there's a lot of days left for people to talk themselves into dropping the $200. The stretch goals? I might be concerned about the skrull head.
It'll be interesting to see if the "we buy anything even slightly Disney-related" crowd will instantly purchase this when Ryan shows it at D23 this weekend.
Is this slow? Were other Haslabs 35% funded within 24 hours?
Not sure if anyone else has mentioned this or not, but I noticed the color of the eyebrows. Seeing that they are a red/brown color, does that mean this is a Scott Lang Giant Man? Hank Pym's eyebrows should be blonde. I know this is just a preliminary hand painted version, but will the color change or is it going to stay the way it is?
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