It's funny - this was my exact complaint about Sienkiewicz after he took over New Mutants back when I was like 12... but later I grew to really appreciate what he had put on the page and it made me retroactively appreciate those old books more.
This is verbatim what I hear every 40 year old say about Sienkiewicz's art. Myself included.
I now get what Sienkiewicz was doing, but I still don't enjoy it. I just don't get mad about it anymore when artists go exaggeratedly abstract like he does knowing they're all temporary and we'll probably have another artist again before long.
Have you tried having real problems in your life, though? It's an experience.
Not sure about others, but just because I disclose my opinion on packaging on a toy forum doesn't mean that's the ONLY problem in my life.
I never cared for windowless packaging because they didn't use all that space to make a design that was appealing to me. It was usually just a 3D render of the figure. If it was cool art, maybe that would be worth displaying. I think the GI Joe boxes had a tendency to look more colorful and exciting. I only display about 10% of my collection in boxes, but I never even considered keeping any of the windowless boxes around.
Anyway, retro cards are the best and no one will ever change my mind.
Oh, lawsy.
I think a certain type of collector desperately wants that to be the case
I have no idea what you mean by "a certain type of collector" and what they "desperately want" but I have no preference when it comes to the packaging. None. It all goes in the recycling bin. End of story. I mentioned the windowless packaging and it's possible effect on sales because, as Schizm points out, Hasbro is going back to the window boxes. There must be a reason for that.
Have you tried having real problems in your life, though? It's an experience.
What's a "real problem"? Is it worrying about "certain types of collectors" and what they "desperately want"? Because I don't think that's a "real problem" either.
You know what? Never mind. I don't think I want to know what you think a "real problem" is. 'Bye!
Anyway, retro cards are the best and no one will ever change my mind.
Despite the fact I throw all my packaging away, this is truth. I just love the way retro packaging looks compared to standard ML packaging.
I'm a fan of Sienkiewicz and maybe because I like abstract art, Bachalo as well. To each their own.
With the same perspective, I guess, regarding figure packaging, I have a mix. Some are still in windowed boxes on the wall, some are in different figures windowed boxes (the old Toybiz/Hasbro pre Legends/Legends X-Men movie Legends mostly in the Juggernaut/Warlock BAF gold and black boxes for example) on the wall, some are new in boxes, and a lot are loose in the open air (dusting is a pain, I should get some detolfs probably), and then I have some in display cases/curios.
I guess I would describe my collection as mixed media, I have (X-Men, X-Men related and mutant characters mostly, usually organized by teams or character) Legends, some from the smaller Hasbro lines (Transformers X-Jet for example), Funko Pops and Sodas, Hot Toys and 3rd party 12 inch, a small amount of customs, posters, comics, clothing, trading cards, masks, lunchboxes, books etc as well. I try to get some of the smaller poster and comics autographed also. To each their own, I don't think there is a wrong way to collect. I'll take some photos at some point if anyone is curious.
I love the feeling of flattening all the windowless packaging and carrying it out to the recycling in one go even after opening a bunch of figures.
It really was a game changer. I could open up 10 figures at once and stash the trash with no issue until I took it out. The plastic makes that impossible!
I love the feeling of flattening all the windowless packaging and carrying it out to the recycling in one go even after opening a bunch of figures.
It really was a game changer. I could open up 10 figures at once and stash the trash with no issue until I took it out. The plastic makes that impossible!
Not to mention the noise factor. I'm half joking, but I really did appreciate the ease and silence of taking figures out of windowless packaging. I'll miss that.
Not to mention the noise factor. I'm half joking, but I really did appreciate the ease and silence of taking figures out of windowless packaging. I'll miss that.
This is an underrated element. I frequently stay up later than the other members of my household and that time by myself is perfect for opening figures I've picked up - but the fiddling with the plastic trays is often way too loud to proceed. The all cardboard packaging made that a much easier process to do while others tried to sleep.
I frequently stay up later than the other members of my household and that time by myself is perfect for opening figures I've picked up - but the fiddling with the plastic trays is often way too loud to proceed. The all cardboard packaging made that a much easier process to do while others tried to sleep.
Especially when the SO may not have noticed the new boxes enter the house in the first place. Only more risky sound is the "chhh - ku" of a beer opening at that time of night.
Ah yes, the noise! Plastic trays are the noisiest things on the whole damn planet.
And y'all had no issues with the crinkly paper? It's not silent.
Yes, it all goes into the trash for me as well. The big thing is I want to see what I'm buying. I'm sorry, but I can't fully trust this company with QC. Yes there may still be other issues when I take it out, but SEEING what I'm getting is a big first step.
Windowless was never about the environment (see their continued use of plastic "retro" packaging and oversized "deluxe" boxes filled with air for proof of that), they did it because it cost less. But when fans stopped buying they decided the money they lost there was more than they saved going windowless, so here we are. I'm just glad it's behind us.
I'm a fan of Sienkiewicz and maybe because I like abstract art, Bachalo as well.
I like Bachalo. I like Frank Quitely too. I'm fine with many forms of exaggerated art as long as it adheres somewhat to reality. Sienkiewicz drew characters like their likenesses were being projected into our reality from the Dark Dimension and were dark, twisted versions of themselves.
But I definitely get people enjoying this style, particularly at the time. I don't recall comic artists ever going this abstract and idiosyncratically stylized before he did it.
Yes, it all goes into the trash for me as well. The big thing is I want to see what I'm buying. I'm sorry, but I can't fully trust this company with QC. Yes there may still be other issues when I take it out, but SEEING what I'm getting is a big first step.
Windowless was never about the environment (see their continued use of plastic "retro" packaging and oversized "deluxe" boxes filled with air for proof of that), they did it because it cost less. But when fans stopped buying they decided the money they lost there was more than they saved going windowless, so here we are. I'm just glad it's behind us.
Even if the plastic-free packaging cost less, it does benefit the environment. The size of the packaging doesn't matter, it's that the material is recyclable. The ML and GI Joe teams used the retro packaging because it was a sku they had available to them and they knew the way around the plastic-free packaging was to use the retro cardbacks.
Frankly, I wish people could've adapted. The place we live is much more important than a window on a box.
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