Yes the fabled dialogues of whether Storm’s costume is silver, black or white and the impassioned warnings about the dangers of razor cardboard packaging. Surely we have lost a 2nd Library of Alexandria
I think I know which images don't work by pasting them into the editor--any that don't end in a file extension such as .jpg, gif, .png, etc aren't going to work. That eliminates ever embedding a pretty large percentage of images hosted on various web servers--anything on Facebook, Instagram, Google Photos, etc etc just won't work.
You should be able to right-click images on most sites (Facebook included) and select "Open Image in New Tab" or "Copy Image Link/Address" to get a .jpg/.png/etc. Not perfect, but it does work in most cases.
Try that yourself and you'll find it doesn't work. Facebook images pass in a bunch of parameters after the .jpg extension. That confuses WordPress, and if you paste it in it tries to hack off everything after the .jpg. But Facebook requires those parameters after the extension and won't return the image without them.
Here's an example using the Fwoosh logo from the Fwoosh Facebook page. This is the URL you see when you copy the link address or open it in a new tab or browser:
https://scontent.fric1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/279434892_848779046051688_1934243645204294626_n.png ?_nc_cat=109&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=09cbfe&_nc_ohc=WGe0AapbXdIAX8vffG_&_nc_ht=scontent.fric1-1.fna&oh=00_AfD05kQzJ3LcGiTzlQlgaU7Eg1tYU3cRGDOodT4gsKANxA&oe=64E9772C
This is what happens when I try to paste that URL into this post:
?_nc_cat=109&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=09cbfe&_nc_ohc=WGe0AapbXdIAX8vffG_&_nc_ht=scontent.fric1-1.fna&oh=00_AfD05kQzJ3LcGiTzlQlgaU7Eg1tYU3cRGDOodT4gsKANxA&oe=64E9772C
Wordpress tries to just make an image with everything up to and including the file extension without all the rest, but Facebook requires all of the rest to serve up the image. So what you see above is a broken image placeholder where Facebook is refusing to serve the image without the parameters with the parameters WordPress tried to hack off of the image request just directly showing up here in my post.
Not every image on the web will end with a file extension unfortunately. I've been a web developer since the web started in the mid-1990s, and in the early days everyone just put images on servers in folders so referring to them by name only was the norm as you're implying, but eventually people started putting them in databases, on back-end file servers not directly accessible via the web, etc, and started passing parameters along with the filename. Another common technique is passing an image filename with the height and width dimensions passed on the end as parameters so that the server will resize the image for the requestor before it serves it up. Image web addresses that don't end in image file extensions is now common, and the larger the site the more likely it is they do that.
if you like a terrible user experience and bending over backwards to excuse it, good for you. some of us want better for the community.
Robo has already explained why he went with this option and I'm sure he's more than aware of the loss of features, and he and the moderating team have made that conscious decision to continue with this for the foreseeable.
You've made your suggestion and he replied in a reasonable manner, and in response to him not immediately jumping on your suggestions, you've taken it as some kind of personal attack and you're relishing at every opportunity to get vindictive digs and stomp your feet. That is not coming across as "deep love for these forums and wanting only the best for them". It is coming off as brattish.
Perhaps you should read back all of the snide remarks you've made here and your ill-conceived "told you so" proboards experiment, and wonder why Robo is now unwilling to engage even in a constructive manner.
if you like a terrible user experience and bending over backwards to excuse it, good for you. some of us want better for the community.
Robo has already explained why he went with this option
yes, and i explained why he was wrong. the issues he raised all apply to *this* board, yet not to other options he dismissed. he's either wrong or lying to you. either way, the lack of updates and transparency during the weeks the board was down make it very clear that they don't care too much about the people filling up the comments or this thread asking for a functional forum to keep their community running smoothly.
Yes the fabled dialogues of whether Storm’s costume is silver, black or white and the impassioned warnings about the dangers of razor cardboard packaging. Surely we have lost a 2nd Library of Alexandria
It's not going to destroy the world, but two decades of people's customs, swapping of actual info on toylines and their releases, lost photos, lost information from the community, old opinions on toys. It sucks. Forums are a good source of information, even for non-posters. TheFwoosh isn't Reddit, but 20 years of online forums will certainly have a lot important stored there.
Is it possible to manually trigger a password reset on the 'enforcer' username? I can't get Password Reset emails to deliver at all. Thanks in advance
👆 see that? doesn't happen on proboards. but no, *this* is easier.
👆 see that? doesn't happen on proboards. but no, *this* is easier.
You can stop coming here at any time... we'll... miss you?
Good to see one feature still working on these boards. Where the brats are called out by the community at large for their behavior
Everyone realizes by now that sleepyhead was banned several times on the old forums, right? Just jumping in here day one to stir the pot?
When it comes to proboards, we're not really wanting an offsite option.
Yes, we're still troubleshooting this board. It's been a whole three and half days, sorry it's not going fast enough for some.
The old forum database was shot. The posts table was the biggest victim. It's easy to say "should just leave 20 years of posts for reading" but it wasn't 20 years of posts. Updates, upgrades, pruning, previous crashes, it was already just a couple of years worth of posts.
@enforcer1750 Your enforcer account shows active, you just just be able to log in. The only email I have from you is the one asking if you were banned.
Edit based on Robo's response above.
Can we handle this a little more civilly? Is it possible that both parties raise good points?
For Robo and the Fwoosh team, it was important to get the board back up and running as quickly as possible. Wordpress offers a built-in option that doesn't require a redirect or a separate platform. The forum largely works as it did before, though I won't discount the learning curve, technical headache for basics like posting images or browsing on mobile, and issues facing individual users, including bans, sign-up issues, and password problems.
Sleepyhead offers a solution that seems to operate as the old forum did, although it looks like something pulled from 1997. As someone who manages the front end of a website and is in the midst of changing platforms now, I can tell you these decisions are incredibly difficult, require a ton of research, and the default option is always what's familiar or free. I did about five minutes of research into Proboards and its paid version, forums.net. Both are actually pretty good value, and the paid version offers real-time backup and single sign-on from Wordpress.
What we general users don't know is the business end. I couldn't find a clear answer for whether forums.net allows the owner to place ads and get paid for them. In the free version, ads are present, and Proboards collects the revenue. Is Fwoosh paying for Wordpress forums or are they included with the front page? How much does Wordpress cost? How much revenue do the forum ads generate? Is it even enough to pay for their existence?
Muut, Wix, and Vanilla also offer forum hosting. Wix is one of the market leaders now, so surely that's worth a look. Long answer short, this is a multi-faceted decision with countless pros and cons. What I do know is that attacking the people who spent an untold amount of time resurrecting this place isn't constructive. Personally, I'd be more likely to dig my heels in after reading some of the more presumptuous and entitled responses here. Then again, I'm petty.
If you don't like it, voice that. "While I appreciate having the forums back, this is an imperfect solution. It's fine as a stopgap but I hope the team explores a different option." Not "You're fools for going in this direction and not immediately heeding my advice."
Im on Robo's side. yeah people dont like change but it is what it is. its also a learning curve, well get used it. I guess im a rare breed (or mutant) that likes change
I also like movie Spoilers 😆 😆 😆 im weird.
Everyone realizes by now that sleepyhead was banned several times on the old forums, right? Just jumping in here day one to stir the pot?
16 posts at the time I make this one, 14 of which are in this thread alone - all griping. For somebody that wants to talk about toys so much he sure ain't taking the opportunities to do so.
https://thefwoosh.com/participant/sleepyhead/activity/
Edit based on Robo's response above.
Can we handle this a little more civilly? Is it possible that both parties raise good points?
For Robo and the Fwoosh team, it was important to get the board back up and running as quickly as possible. Wordpress offers a built-in option that doesn't require a redirect or a separate platform. The forum largely works as it did before, though I won't discount the learning curve, technical headache for basics like posting images or browsing on mobile, and issues facing individual users, including bans, sign-up issues, and password problems.
Sleepyhead offers a solution that seems to operate as the old forum did, although it looks like something pulled from 1997. As someone who manages the front end of a website and is in the midst of changing platforms now, I can tell you these decisions are incredibly difficult, require a ton of research, and the default option is always what's familiar or free. I did about five minutes of research into Proboards and its paid version, forums.net. Both are actually pretty good value, and the paid version offers real-time backup and single sign-on from Wordpress.
What we general users don't know is the business end. I couldn't find a clear answer for whether forums.net allows the owner to place ads and get paid for them. In the free version, ads are present, and Proboards collects the revenue. Is Fwoosh paying for Wordpress forums or are they included with the front page? How much does Wordpress cost? How much revenue do the forum ads generate? Is it even enough to pay for their existence?
Muut, Wix, and Vanilla also offer forum hosting. Wix is one of the market leaders now, so surely that's worth a look. Long answer short, this is a multi-faceted decision with countless pros and cons. What I do know is that attacking the people who spent an untold amount of time resurrecting this place isn't constructive. Personally, I'd be more likely to dig my heels in after reading some of the more presumptuous and entitled responses here. Then again, I'm petty.
If you don't like it, voice that. "While I appreciate having the forums back, this is an imperfect solution. It's fine as a stopgap but I hope the team explores a different option." Not "You're fools for going in this direction and not immediately heeding my advice."
Well said, and my feelings exactly. For now I'm just really stoked to have the boards back, even if it's imperfect.
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