Kinda the same thing with the B&R Mr. Freeze - what IS this complete lack of paint job? His head is even missing the marbling texture and the blue eyes, and the gun is... so, so cheap.
And I know that if I put the work in myself, it will get re-released - what are the odds this Freeze will get re-released as a single with proper paint?
I would say zero…give me an example of when that has happened…?
he doesnt typically release the same figure with better paint job
only one that quickly comes to mind is the anti covid Batman
amazo virus or whatever but he also lit up
there might be others refresh my memory
never a baf besides merciless that had a much worse paint job from an accuracy point of view
Got serious FOMO and ordered the Monitor wave from MTS. I got the bundle for $135, then I applied the PUNCH15 code and got $20.25 off that. So before tax and shipping it comes to $28.75 per figure, which is less than the price of the Collector Edition figures, so the cost wasn't as bad as it first appeared to be. Plus I expect once these are gone they are going to gone for good. And the after market prices will be likely insane. So it seemed like a win/win.
This is actually a pretty strong wave for me. I really like the looks of the Spectre and Superman figures, and I've always had a soft spot for Wally West as Kid Flash, and I can always use another villain like Psycho-Pirate, so hopefully things go smooth and I can add these to my collection soon.
I have the Mattel glow Spectre and will hold off on McFarlane unless he springs a luminescent version on us. I feel like there’s a pretty good chance.
there are 2 platinum chase variants in the wave that will be extremely difficult to come by, I bet Spectre is one
sigh
platinum mts exclusive is beyond unfair
I got Lobo and his bike yesterday from amazon. His left arm fell off 🙁 Being that it's amazon, I'll be able to return it no problem. But do I exchange it, or just return? I'm very satisfied with my Mattel SDCC Lobo, the dog is better, and the two Lobo's are the same size. The bike itself is great, but do I really have room for it?
my arm came separate…I just popped it back in no further issues
have you tried that?
I've always cherry picked the line, so it's nothing new for me. I kinda like that I don't feel the need to get every single, or even most of, the releases. That said, the recent price jumps (permanent or not) and limited availability of the Gold Labels is frustrating. I seem to remember Todd saying something along the lines of Gold Labels not being as much of a thing a while back- around the time they decided to pivot away from the awful "prototype" versions. That they'd pack Gold Labels a bit more frequently. I could be misremembering, but it's a shame to not see that come to fruition, especially on releases like the Bank Robber Joker and Interrogation Room Joker, which easily could've sold in stores, given the praise that TDK still gets all these years later.
I love the figures, and I love McFarlane, but I won't argue that some odd choices are being made. Todd's said before that being an independant company means a little more creative freedom and ability to keep the prices a little lower, but he seems to be going backwards on that. What's frustrated me most is the starting, but almost never finishing, of teams. Getting all of the main 2021 Suicide Squad members except for Ratcatcher 2 (who I've wanted the most out of any of them). Giving us animated Teen Titans Cyborg, but then none of the other members. At least we got all the main Dark Knights Metal variants, which look hella cool, granted (which, as we know, is Todd's MO), but not other, arguably more popular and in demand things.
Even when he tries to make amends, the choices are odd. Finally giving us the properly masked Catwoman from The Batman (as a hard to find, low production run Gold Label). Giving us the "proper" Hush Batman (after 2 or 3 incorrect releases). I appreciate the effort, don't get me wrong, but it's still a bit maddening.
Then again, I think that's just the state of collecting nowadays. The same can be said, albeit to different levels, for a lot of companies right now. I can think of Hasbro most egregiously, but that's just because they're the ones I probably collect most. Endless repaints, use of old/outdated sculpts when newer/better ones exist, frustrating store exclusives, skipping important characters, etc. At least in terms of mass market, widely available lines, I really don't know of one that isn't pulling frustrating moves in some sense. They're all guilty of something, and I really don't know why. Money is obviously a big part of it, and I'm all for a good exclusive, but it really does seem like they've all been listening far more to the big chains themselves- Target, Wal-Mart, etc., than the fans. Understandable, of course- you wanna keep a good relationship with your buyers, but not communicating more and being in touch with your audience is a bad thing. Don't give us what you think we want, or what you think is cool, when we're yelling at you with what we want and throwing fits about it. Not to say they would, or even should, give us everything we want- gotta leave them wanting and coming back somehow, but still.
I feel like action figure collecting is one of the few things that, once a good formula is found, can afford to stay relatively stagnant and still do good business. Whereas movies and shows need to change to continue feeling fresh and interesting, once a good line has a good price point, good execution of sculpts/articulation/etc/, I feel like they can continue along that base level with every subsequent release. Not saying lines can't adapt and change, but it's generally when they do, and mess with a good thing when they have it, that lines start tanking, or fan support drops out.
thetes been one of those catwomans at a local Walmart for 18 months
he also put her and most exclusive on his website later
You’re absolutely right he publicly stood up against price increases and now he’s doing exactly what I thought he stood up against
new mts wave maybe some super exclusive low number thing but it got him a ton of backlash bet he won’t do that again!
the collectors line has NO business costing $30
those are almost all re used sculpts that were originally sold for $20
And the stand for the card? I don’t know ANYONE that wants those
ive personally gotten every gold label and seen every one at the suggested retail price
As you guys can tell I’m a huge fan of the McFarlane line, but the collectors edition, even though I like the figures, has displeased me as I don’t see the value
at all
he said he was going to address that
maybe the next wave will reflect thst
allegedly it’s penguin, starfire, and captain boomerang
god damn these forums are difficult to
use now
DCUC is better?!?!
I don’t see how you could actually think that
I like the paint shading from Mattel and musculature looks better. Plus I just don't like the "diaper" piece. I never have. No doubt McFarlane figures are striking with their size and some are damn impressive putting other lines to shame. But it's wildly inconsistent to me.
I watched another McFarlane interview. I have always liked him and his takes, keeps the entrepreneurial and artistic spirit alive, but it's the same shit - always about longevity, being different and a bunch of BS. It's never about making a good story or a better figure. Or satisfying fans. Hell his staple is cheap prices, and now prices exploded. I know the COIE wave is unique, but Collector Edition is a fiasco.
I still think we're lucky to have him making toys, but there was a time when I was buying probably 70% of what he produced. Now it's like 25% if that. Maybe too many fans waited for clearance years ago and this is the price we pay. Seems like a lot of us have cooled off on his line. I remember when Spawn just went to statues of literally Spawn, Spawn, Spawn. That's when I walked away from that too.
Personally I like the diaper oiece
not always
but DCUC crotch doesn’t look better
different sure
like animated condiment king with diaper is so much better than the normal crotch pieces on them
I got Lobo and his bike yesterday from amazon. His left arm fell off 🙁 Being that it's amazon, I'll be able to return it no problem. But do I exchange it, or just return? I'm very satisfied with my Mattel SDCC Lobo, the dog is better, and the two Lobo's are the same size. The bike itself is great, but do I really have room for it?
my arm came separate…I just popped it back in no further issues
have you tried that?
I did. It went back on, but not secure enough to my satisfaction. There was no "pop" back into place. It was not as sturdy as the right arm seemed to be. Again, it's a really nice piece and I may give it another shot at some point, I'm just in a money saving mode right now. I returned a $90 figure along with Lobo and it felt really good.
@ninjak feel the same. I am waiting until February or so to order however. If they're gone, that would suck, but I think it will be alright. I am somewhat waiting on news for the 40th Anniversary Transformers HasLab - I have all the others and love Transformers so I would like to budget. Then there's LooseCollector with the Extreme Universe. That could be, or rather should/will be a huge deal for me. Could prompt commissioning a figure from someone too.
So I would like those dominoes to fall before splurging on McFarlane right now, even though this wave looks damn strong. Like Xavion said, 1/3 of the purchases were mistakes and I think we all know better at this point. I saw Red Tornado yesterday, and he looks fine, but honestly the DCUC one is better. More dynamic and heroic sculpt with more paint. McFarlane doesn't sculpt heroic proportions well, the lats are too narrow on most releases. So I can see why sales off. But some of the other figures are dynamite, it's just odd.
DCUC is better?!?!
I don’t see how you could actually think that
I've got them both in hand (although in fairness I haven't opened the McF version, as I seldom do except for CTB waves), and I'm pretty sure that I prefer the Mattel version also.
I decided to keep the Mattel version in my open DC display and put the McF version on a double bookshelf full of unopened McF DCM figures. Now in fairness, my open DC display is about about 70% Mattel and probably around 15% each of McF and DCD/DCU, so the Mattel version scales better with most of it. I tend to hide the McF and older larger DCD stuff in the back.
The day may come when I switch out the Mattel stuff and go mostly McF, but that day is still a long ways off. Todd is going to have make a whole lot more different characters first. He's not even in the ballpark yet of how many different 6" DC characters I have. I've got at least one version of every character ever made by all 3 companies (Mattel/McF/DCD). I probably won't make the switch until I have more different McF characters than I do for Mattel, and I'm not convinced he'll ever get there. Only time will tell.
I also will likely always prefer the Mattel stuff because it scales better with my Marvel Legends collection, which will always be my primary line, and just like the DC stuff I've got at least one version of every character ever made from both Hasbro and Toy Biz (+ some Marvel Select and Mezco) as well. I understand why Todd chose to go a different way with a larger scale, but it still annoys me to no end after 20+ years of buying comic book figures in the 6" scale. I don't even know how many thousands of dollars I've spent on 6" figures during that time. Switching to another scale was just honestly kind of cruel to someone like me. I originally said I'd only buy characters from him that had never been made before, but I'm weak and now have at least one version of every character he has made in his line also, including all the alternate earth and Metal stuff.
DCUC is better?!?!
I don’t see how you could actually think that
I like the paint shading from Mattel and musculature looks better. Plus I just don't like the "diaper" piece. I never have. No doubt McFarlane figures are striking with their size and some are damn impressive putting other lines to shame. But it's wildly inconsistent to me.
I watched another McFarlane interview. I have always liked him and his takes, keeps the entrepreneurial and artistic spirit alive, but it's the same shit - always about longevity, being different and a bunch of BS. It's never about making a good story or a better figure. Or satisfying fans. Hell his staple is cheap prices, and now prices exploded. I know the COIE wave is unique, but Collector Edition is a fiasco.
I still think we're lucky to have him making toys, but there was a time when I was buying probably 70% of what he produced. Now it's like 25% if that. Maybe too many fans waited for clearance years ago and this is the price we pay. Seems like a lot of us have cooled off on his line. I remember when Spawn just went to statues of literally Spawn, Spawn, Spawn. That's when I walked away from that too.
I think the colors pop more on the McFarlane RT, but the musculature and proportions are better on the Mattel.
I know for me the Mattel one is actually comic accurate and classic whereas the McF one is a combo of classic and modern.@ninjak feel the same. I am waiting until February or so to order however. If they're gone, that would suck, but I think it will be alright. I am somewhat waiting on news for the 40th Anniversary Transformers HasLab - I have all the others and love Transformers so I would like to budget. Then there's LooseCollector with the Extreme Universe. That could be, or rather should/will be a huge deal for me. Could prompt commissioning a figure from someone too.
So I would like those dominoes to fall before splurging on McFarlane right now, even though this wave looks damn strong. Like Xavion said, 1/3 of the purchases were mistakes and I think we all know better at this point. I saw Red Tornado yesterday, and he looks fine, but honestly the DCUC one is better. More dynamic and heroic sculpt with more paint. McFarlane doesn't sculpt heroic proportions well, the lats are too narrow on most releases. So I can see why sales off. But some of the other figures are dynamite, it's just odd.
DCUC is better?!?!
I don’t see how you could actually think that
DCUC is better?!?!
I don’t see how you could actually think that
I like the paint shading from Mattel and musculature looks better. Plus I just don't like the "diaper" piece. I never have. No doubt McFarlane figures are striking with their size and some are damn impressive putting other lines to shame. But it's wildly inconsistent to me.
I watched another McFarlane interview. I have always liked him and his takes, keeps the entrepreneurial and artistic spirit alive, but it's the same shit - always about longevity, being different and a bunch of BS. It's never about making a good story or a better figure. Or satisfying fans. Hell his staple is cheap prices, and now prices exploded. I know the COIE wave is unique, but Collector Edition is a fiasco.
I still think we're lucky to have him making toys, but there was a time when I was buying probably 70% of what he produced. Now it's like 25% if that. Maybe too many fans waited for clearance years ago and this is the price we pay. Seems like a lot of us have cooled off on his line. I remember when Spawn just went to statues of literally Spawn, Spawn, Spawn. That's when I walked away from that too.
I think the colors pop more on the McFarlane RT, but the musculature and proportions are better on the Mattel.
isn’t it just the same body they used for Superman Batman green lantern flash and damn near everyone ?
@dhunter333 Not necessarily because the scale is all over the place as well. I just pulled out my classic looking Ultraman and he's actually shorter than Nightwing, lol. John Stewart GL as well shorter than Nightwing. Jonah Hex was huge being on a new different body. Taller and bigger than Superman. I also like McF's proportions for Red Tornado better.
It seems most like Mattel because of a nostalgia feeling rather than the actual piece. I had a handful of Mattel's and honestly far prefer McF's offerings, if for no other reason they just feel substantial. Like I've got something for my money.
As for CEw4, I saw someone above mention the Penguin/Boomer/Star; there's no evidence to this other than some random Aussie dude just posting a video and stating it with no info. I also HIGHLY doubt that'll be the wave, cause that would just rot on the pegs. Every wave needs a big hitter, and every CE has had that or very visually appealing characters.
I've no info who'll be in it but I'd bet we see perhaps a Flash or a GL. I'd also bet we hear about it soon, gotta imagine another trickle of leakage should be coming soon enough.
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