2023 HasLab - Avengers: Beyond Earth's Mightiest

[Basil Elks]

Ok so after 18 pages I just need to know what accessories are coming with my $300 Dr. Druid from haslab.

Just 2 heads, bald, and ponytail versions.

[H-bird]

I'm not a fan of the way Ramen toys engineered the flaming wheels solution. The haslab version where you swapped out regular wheels for the flame effects looks miles better than the flaming hubcaps solution Ramen went with. And, the Hasbro solution was a big part of how I planned to wall mount the vehicle for display to not take up so much shelf space.... the Ramen Toys solution won't work the same. I admire them for doing it, and it may be a decent solution for those who really need this car in their lives, but it doesn't work for my purposes

Can you elaborate on how you were going to mount it? Not sure I understand.

As for them changing up the design (not your post PC) they’ve been sharing in progress pics as they’ve been developing it, but haven’t officially launched. Seems unfair to hold that against them - it’d be different if they officially announced then made changes after people bought. Personally I wish they’d kept the orange on the tires and front grill flames, but I’m glad they ditched the orange on the actual engine - chrome looks way better with flames coming out of the top.

I was a very vocal supporter of the Haslab, and I think all the armchair MBAs that confidently make assertions about production specifications they have no actual insight into are and were being foolish in how they evaluated the EoV. I’m very sad it didn’t get made, cause I would have loved the official product plus the 1-4 figures it could have come with. This is an excellent looking 3rd-party solution though, and I’m happy to have another shot at a Hellcharger for my display.

Also, Avengers Haslab. What’s it gonna be?

[fletch137]

I think it wasn't necessary "pure greed" on Hasbro's part as some claim so much as feature creep and odd choices.

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I think a plussed out Batmobile at $350 with 4 figures would sell. People would pay a premium for that Batmobile.

I find both of these thoughts right on target. I think there's just a bigger market for properties that have had 40+ years to attract fans than a newer property. Plus I suspect customers for an 80s design are generally older with more disposable income than customers for a 2010s design, but that's really just a guess.

Meanwhile, if something is to be done at HasLab, I kind of want that feature creep. This is the place to go all-out on interior details and electronic features. I would be less satisfied with my HISS tank, fer instance, if they hadn't included the light-up console and rear transport seat.

[El Honez]

They could have made the Hellcharger or whatever it was called work.

All they needed to do was to include two additional build-outs to make it more universally relevant: 1) A Punisher build-out with skull decal(s) and a trunk full of weapons, and 2) a Blade build-out with a hood-mounter stake launcher and some vamp fighting gear in the trunk.

Maybe they could have been stretch goals? Maybe they should have been available at the outset? But they needed to make the actual CAR more relevant and worthy of additional purchases, not arbitrarily add a bunch of supernatural-adjacent characters.

[El Honez]

They could have even added SHIELD decals. So each "stretch pack" would have a character too: a perfect Frank Castle, a new Blade and a classic Nick Fury. Boom. You've got a super versatile car with four different drivers.

[PG-Superfan]

I do think what Ramen's doing is adjacent to what you guys are suggesting and is smart for a third party.

They're doing the base 1969 Charger in orange and black.

For $10 extra, you get the parts to replicate the Charger customizations from Fast and the Furious, Bullitt, or Dukes of Hazzard.

I have little doubt this will be Ramen's biggest project yet. I think they said a few months ago that the biggest run they'd ever done was around 1500 pieces.

Selling to four fandoms probably maximizes the run size. And making the customizations and fire effects separate probably gives them some legal shielding.

Not that they typically care. They're often pretty blatant with unlicensed stuff. That Tom Cruise figure is Tom Cruise in Top Gun, dead on.

[MollyMillions]

The Haslab looked much better IMO... The collecting community really F'd up by following the social media hate train on the Haslab project.

I can't believe some YouTubers made a name off of it and continue to milk it as a schtick.

[MarvelLegendsMan]

Don't see much sense in comparing the Ramen Toys product or its pricing with the HasLab. They're a tiny indy company - obviously they're not going to be able to compete with a multinational corporation.

I don't think it's fair to draw any direct comparison between the HasLab and the Batmobile, either. What seems more reasonable is the indirect comparison of character selection and price point.

Sure, the Batmobile probably won't look or feel as nice as the Hellcharger. And yet it sold out immediately. Why? Because it's Batman and it costs $60! What an obvious marketing choice, no? Make something related to a character that your customer base is familiar with and actually wants, and don't ask an arm and a leg for it. But the key word is Batman.

Galactus was expensive, but people paid for it, even if they thought it was overpriced, because they actually wanted a Galactus. Same goes for the Sentinel.

The most important factor in the HasLab's failure wasn't the price, it was the character selection.

It's one thing to spend $30-$50 on a figure of a character you don't now/don't like/have barely heard of; it's another to spend $400.

Most toy collectors don't care about Robbie Reyes. Hasbro should have tried to get them onboard by making it an accessible accessory that toy collectors could find a use for even if they don't know Reyes. People bought a freaking Barbie doll car so they could use it with their figures, because it was reasonably priced.

Instead, Hasbro priced it to be completely inaccessible to all those people whose only interest in this was as a generic toy/ACBA accessory, and doubled down by holding hostage products that their customers actually do want behind this paywall.

There's no point in talking about the hell charger and stirring up old crap.

Either Hasbro needs to understand not every haslab needs to be $400 or fans need to accept that every haslab is going to be $400 regardless of weather it's worth it.

I don’t really see “pointing out that a segment of the community made the last haslab a miserable slog was actually WRONG about their price delusions” as “stirring up old shit” but whatever. If you think that section of the fan base won’t do the same shit again unless they’re rightfully pressed and discredited you’re delusional


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Funny, as I recall (and I bet plenty of other people in the community would concur), the most unbearably annoying thing about the toy community during that entire period of time was the very small contingent of collectors who repeatedly belittled other people simply because they shared their "negative" opinions about this toy and how much it costs on toy collector social media (imagine that, sharing your opinions about something on social media).

You know, kinda like you and 2 or 3 others incessantly did here at The Fwoosh.

Yet, despite the fact that they and you were repeatedly discredited - and not just when the HasLab failed miserably - here you are, doing it all over again.

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[H-bird]

Round and round and round it gooooes.

[EnigmaticClarity]

The Haslab looked much better IMO... The collecting community really F'd up by following the social media hate train on the Haslab project.

Still don't think that's the takeaway. Certainly didn't help, but mostly It failed mostly because Robbie Reyes Ghost Rider isn't a top tier character--and not even one that most fans even recognize. More people know and prefer Johnny Blaze on a motorcycle and that doesn't require a Haslab unless you really trick the motorcycle out with lights, sounds, insane flames, die-cast metal, etc. THAT I would have bought, and even a super-deluxe bike should top out only around $150 to $200.

[EnigmaticClarity]

Also, Avengers Haslab. What’s it gonna be?

Dwight pretty much already told us!

[Beamish]

[fac]

So 12 costumes of the Wasp boxset confirmed, with bonus 48" tall Janet?

[JPC]

Bought!

Also need a What If? Zombie Wasp. That was a cool moment.

[Beamish]

So 12 costumes of the Wasp boxset confirmed, with bonus 48" tall Janet?

Instant backing!

























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