Re: What's next for ML in 2022-2023

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Re: Re: What's next for ML in 2022-2023

Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:56 pm

zodach wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 6:14 pm
Material costs, labor costs, shipping costs, license fees, publicly traded company profit margin expectations - all of these things have been increasing by double digits since the pandemic hit and the prices aren't coming back down with how much money we printed in 2020-2021. Nearly everything costs more. Get used to it.
No doubt, and that is out of our control. But wages for people are not increasing to balance rising costs. So saying that rising costs means I will have to buy less or be more selective/strategic with how I do purchase things isn't out of line or anything. It is the reality of the situation. That is how many of us will have to "get used to it"
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Re: What's next for ML in 2022-2023

Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:03 pm

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Inflation is not something we can do anything about and I get it. But my paycheck ain't going up at the same rate Legends are. So cuts are gonna have to be made and buying habits are gonna have to change.

This is exactly it. The working class falls by the wayside again. Who could believe it?

Hasbro's not entirely to blame for the price increase. Inflation, shipping, and raw materials are partly responsible, but I do feel that the anniversary line and X-Men Animated Series line are blatant cash grabs, and I don't think Legends should be $25 MSRP. These corporations are beholden to shareholders at the cost of consumers and the planet.

Action figure prices are definitely going up across the board, but companies like Diamond Select are still offering unique sculpts for $29.99. I know Hasbro spreads the budget out across a wave, but you just can't tell me that the Marvel Select Titanium Man is only worth $5 more than the new Marvel Legends Sleepwalker. Sleepwalker is on a decade-old body. Seriously. Bucky Cap came out in February 2012. Titanium Man to Sleepwalker isn't exactly apples to apples, but for comic collectors, it often is.

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They've got me by the balls for a few characters and teams. If the Astonishing X-Men are Super7 prices, I'll just have to pony up. But I'm at a point where I expect better quality than a lot of what we're getting for $25. If a figure doesn't have butterfly joints, good lateral hip motion, and calf swivel, I'm good. I know what other companies are doing for the same price. Hell, I know what Hasbro's own G.I. Joe team is doing for the same price.
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Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:31 pm

Isn’t MS pricing going up to $35? I don’t regularly read that thread, but pretty sure MSRP is jumping for them too.
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Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:24 pm

I believe Diamond are now $30.
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Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:26 pm

This recently came up and MSWord said they're still $30 with no impending increases he's aware of.
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Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:03 pm

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Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:03 pm
Sleepwalker is on a decade-old body. Seriously. Bucky Cap came out in February 2012.
I support the idea of your post, but this was uncalled for. That made me feel really old.
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Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:46 pm

Stark Resilient wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:03 pm
TheSameIdiot wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:03 pm
Sleepwalker is on a decade-old body. Seriously. Bucky Cap came out in February 2012.
I support the idea of your post, but this was uncalled for. That made me feel really old.
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Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:05 am

I didn't realize Target has legends at $27.49
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Sat Jan 22, 2022 7:44 am

Stark Resilient wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:03 pm
TheSameIdiot wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:03 pm
Sleepwalker is on a decade-old body. Seriously. Bucky Cap came out in February 2012.
I support the idea of your post, but this was uncalled for. That made me feel really old.

I'm sorry. :lol:

I remember checking my local TRU for the Arnim Zola wave back in college. It feels like yesterday and also a lifetime ago. For what it's worth, I never found a single new Legends figure there.
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Re: What's next for ML in 2022-2023

Sat Jan 22, 2022 8:03 am

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Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:03 pm
Hell, I know what Hasbro's own G.I. Joe team is doing for the same price.
Hasbro pays no licensing on GI Joe, right? Pretty sure Disney expects a premium for Marvel.
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Re: Re: What's next for ML in 2022-2023

Sat Jan 22, 2022 2:14 pm

The Titanium Man and Sleepwalker comparison is telling. I'd love to hear someone with some insider knowledge speak to the differences between the two companies/lines - presumably they both have similar costs to produce figures. Hasbro deluxe releases that cost the same as a MS figure still often reuse bucks, etc.
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Re: What's next for ML in 2022-2023

Sat Jan 22, 2022 2:28 pm

DerRabbi wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 8:03 am
TheSameIdiot wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:03 pm
Hell, I know what Hasbro's own G.I. Joe team is doing for the same price.
Hasbro pays no licensing on GI Joe, right? Pretty sure Disney expects a premium for Marvel.

They own GI Joe and Power Rangers. I assume they pay royalties to Takara for Transformers but I've never been sure.
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Re: Re: What's next for ML in 2022-2023

Sat Jan 22, 2022 3:43 pm

Re-posing some figures this morning (how I destress :)) and we absolutely NEED a new Daredevil...

Why they ever put him on the Bucky mold is quite the headscratcher.

So maybe this year we can get an updated DD on a more dynamic body!
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Re: What's next for ML in 2022-2023

Sat Jan 22, 2022 4:06 pm

TheSameIdiot wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 7:44 am
Stark Resilient wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:03 pm
TheSameIdiot wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:03 pm
Sleepwalker is on a decade-old body. Seriously. Bucky Cap came out in February 2012.
I support the idea of your post, but this was uncalled for. That made me feel really old.

I'm sorry. :lol:

I remember checking my local TRU for the Arnim Zola wave back in college. It feels like yesterday and also a lifetime ago. For what it's worth, I never found a single new Legends figure there.
Now I feel old. The Toy Biz 5-inch line was just getting starting when I was in college ...
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Re: What's next for ML in 2022-2023

Sat Jan 22, 2022 5:14 pm

GrumpyMatt wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 4:06 pm
TheSameIdiot wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 7:44 am
Stark Resilient wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:03 pm


I support the idea of your post, but this was uncalled for. That made me feel really old.

I'm sorry. :lol:

I remember checking my local TRU for the Arnim Zola wave back in college. It feels like yesterday and also a lifetime ago. For what it's worth, I never found a single new Legends figure there.
Now I feel old. The Toy Biz 5-inch line was just getting starting when I was in college ...
I was in grade 6 or 7 when the 5inch line started

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