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Re: X-Men Retro Legends

Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:57 pm

H-bird wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 5:04 pm
Maybe Spiral’s arms aren’t cybernetic at all and those are just stylish metal arm warmers. Hence why she can wear them however she wants.
I too was going to suggest that maybe they're sleeves.
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Re: X-Men Retro Legends

Wed Feb 08, 2023 9:16 pm

killphil wrote:Wolverine is pretty decent as well. Janky claws notwithstanding. CoBs comes through everytime, taking a slightly above average ML Wolverine into a very solid figure.

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But I love the knock on effect it has on my other Wolverines thanks to the 2nd unmasked head.

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They all work for me as definitive Wolverine figures.
H-bird wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 5:04 pm
Maybe Spiral’s arms aren’t cybernetic at all and those are just stylish metal arm warmers. Hence why she can wear them however she wants.
That's my new head canon. She's 100% accurate now. Thanks! Just saved me $30 :lol:
The only bummer about this Wolverine is that his skintone doesn’t match the tank top figures.
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Re: X-Men Retro Legends

Thu Feb 09, 2023 12:32 am

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Wed Feb 08, 2023 3:59 pm
Even Adams, who help create and first drew Spiral, has drawn her both with singular and multiple cybernetic arms:

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She Has 2 Cybernetic arms. Maybe there is some flesh over one of them sometimes? Where have you see Arthur Adams draw her with one Cyber arm?


Other than that, I think this spiral looks 95% like the Adams drawing with Longshot you posted. It's nigh perfect.
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Re: X-Men Retro Legends

Thu Feb 09, 2023 12:55 am

This art looks pretty close to the figure.

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That's enough of a consistent inconsistency to accept her having a single arm.
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Re: X-Men Retro Legends

Thu Feb 09, 2023 1:23 am

thefamousnicknaro wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 9:16 pm
killphil wrote:Wolverine is pretty decent as well. Janky claws notwithstanding. CoBs comes through everytime, taking a slightly above average ML Wolverine into a very solid figure.

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But I love the knock on effect it has on my other Wolverines thanks to the 2nd unmasked head.

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They all work for me as definitive Wolverine figures.
H-bird wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 5:04 pm
Maybe Spiral’s arms aren’t cybernetic at all and those are just stylish metal arm warmers. Hence why she can wear them however she wants.
That's my new head canon. She's 100% accurate now. Thanks! Just saved me $30 :lol:
The only bummer about this Wolverine is that his skintone doesn’t match the tank top figures.

I also don't like that it doesn't have any facial hair. Jim Lee always drew Wolverine (and Gambit) with some stubble

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Re: X-Men Retro Legends

Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:29 am

Liking Multiple Man more than I thought I would. Had to order 2 more...

Where is everyone else displaying this version of him? I suppose some type of Muir Isle setup?
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Re: X-Men Retro Legends

Thu Feb 09, 2023 5:29 am

Andru wrote:
Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:29 am
Liking Multiple Man more than I thought I would. Had to order 2 more...

Where is everyone else displaying this version of him? I suppose some type of Muir Isle setup?
With Medusa, Reed, and the Thing.

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Re: X-Men Retro Legends

Thu Feb 09, 2023 9:26 am

Those are definitely the best unmasked Wolvie heads Hasbro has ever produced.

Are they 100% new or are they the same sculpts as that shirtless Wolverine from the amazon boxed set?
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Re: X-Men Retro Legends

Thu Feb 09, 2023 12:05 pm

Just wondering why the belt from retro Wolverine could not have been used on the figures in the three packs?
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Re: X-Men Retro Legends

Thu Feb 09, 2023 12:35 pm

Good thing Hasbro didn't reference the bottom art too closely or Spiral's figure could've been designed like six-armed Spidey.
killphil wrote:
Thu Feb 09, 2023 12:55 am
This art looks pretty close to the figure.

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That's enough of a consistent inconsistency to accept her having a single arm.
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Re: X-Men Retro Legends

Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:03 pm

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Thu Feb 09, 2023 12:32 am
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sepster wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 3:59 pm
Even Adams, who help create and first drew Spiral, has drawn her both with singular and multiple cybernetic arms:

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She Has 2 Cybernetic arms. Maybe there is some flesh over one of them sometimes? Where have you see Arthur Adams draw her with one Cyber arm?


Other than that, I think this spiral looks 95% like the Adams drawing with Longshot you posted. It's nigh perfect.

In her debut in the Longshot mini-series Adams drew her with one cybernetic arm, as seen below:

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I'd have to go back and check if Adams drew her with only one throughout the series, but on that cover she only had one.
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Re: X-Men Retro Legends

Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:09 pm

Andru wrote:
Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:29 am
Liking Multiple Man more than I thought I would. Had to order 2 more...

Where is everyone else displaying this version of him? I suppose some type of Muir Isle setup?
He's going with my Fantastic Four villains; I popped the angry head on him and he was good to go.
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Re: X-Men Retro Legends

Thu Feb 09, 2023 5:18 pm

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Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:37 am
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Wed Feb 08, 2023 5:39 am
And Martin Scorsese pretty much bashes every super hero movie, especially Marvel, for being a marketing tool to just sell products.
Scorsese bashes the MCU's depth. He's a great spokesperson for adult cinema, which needs all the help it can get. The MCU is doing okay for itself right now without Marty.

Scorsese isn't wrong about superhero films. All he mostly does is point out that they're not art, they're entertainment--which is true. They're trying to entertain us, and if they went too heavy on making a movie message-based art they'd get absolutely ripped by most fans.

Oscar voters mostly think the same way. That's why sci-fi, fantasy, or superhero genre films don't get nominated--they're not trying to change the viewer or the world, they're just trying to inspire and entertain us with tales of heroism. I love superhero stories, and I've also got an English degree and love classic literature and art films. I don't need them mixed up, necessarily, because most films that alter our viewpoint also aren't as fun.

While all of this is true, I must say I'm floored by "Everything, Everywhere All at Once." I didn't know you could do what that film did with sci-fi and fantasy as well as they did it. Before I saw it I was surprised it got nominated since sci-fi and fantasy almost never does, but wow, that film is just SO well done in every aspect of filmmaking. :shock: I absolutely adore the Lord of the Rings films and have watched them many times, but I didn't think any were worthy of Oscar nods--but "Everything" absolutely is. Star Wars was also nominated in its day due to the incredible innovation Lucas made with fast-paced film editing, and similarly to Star Wars "Everything" is also definitely worthy of an Oscar nod.
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Re: X-Men Retro Legends

Thu Feb 09, 2023 6:11 pm

Scorsese is an amazing artist of course, his films are truly great.

But it takes a very big ego and a little bit of ignorance to dismiss media you don't enjoy as "not art". I've always felt his statements on the matter are quite douchey.
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Re: X-Men Retro Legends

Thu Feb 09, 2023 6:56 pm

Reefer Shark wrote:
Thu Feb 09, 2023 6:11 pm
But it takes a very big ego and a little bit of ignorance to dismiss media you don't enjoy as "not art".

He's using the same definition of art most Oscar voters use--a work whose primary intent is to alter the mind of its audience in some significant way that affects social or individual progress. That's not what we typically want from the superhero genre; we want action featuring superheroes saving people.

So he's neither arrogant nor ignorant to point out that Kevin Feige (or any of Marvel's comic editors over the decades) isn't trying to evoke the same emotions in his audience as a Shakespeare, a Hemingway, an Orson Welles, or the Coen Brothers. Nor do we want him to. Note that during the same original interview where he made that comment about Marvel films he stipulated why he thinks it's true--he simply said he didn't read superhero comics as a kid so he never developed the kind of attachment that most of us who enjoy them as adults developed while we were kids.

Differentiating art from entertainment isn't arrogant, and you can easily enjoy both or do both even though Scorsese doesn't enjoy both. Spielberg is an example of a director who has done plenty of entertainment-focused films AND plenty of art films, and it's fairly easy to tell which is which in his directing career.

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