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Anyone ever tried using paint toy companies use…

Sun Oct 10, 2021 2:49 pm

I’ve been a customizer since 2004 and always used acrylics I despised them and enamels as the were sticky or just not nearly as good as paints that toy companies use.
Has anyone ever gotten a hold of their type of paint, if so, where would I go to get some?


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Sun Oct 10, 2021 7:10 pm

Pretty sure it’s unsafe for home use. I believe it needs to be brought to a certain temp before it becomes safe to handle. Might be wrong but I vaguely remember someone else asking this once before.
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Sun Oct 10, 2021 7:21 pm

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Pretty sure it’s unsafe for home use. I believe it needs to be brought to a certain temp before it becomes safe to handle. Might be wrong but I vaguely remember someone else asking this once before.
Yeah - from what I recall, the type of paint used for making toys isn't even legal to sell in the United States due to the far more strict regulations concerning toxicity and off-gassing. And as late as 2008-2009, Mattel was getting fined for the paint containing lead.
You're not gonna get this type of industrial-grade paint as a regular person in the US.
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Mon Oct 11, 2021 7:37 am

So what kind of paint could I use that wouldn’t crack like acrylic or be sticky like enamels? I’m not planning to give my custom to a kid, but I want to do photos with poses and not worry as much about paint peeling or chipping off easy.
Thanks for the info BTW.
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Mon Oct 11, 2021 8:09 am

Also, anyone know any action figure that comes with blue/white lightning accessories? I’m thinking of ordering some random ones from Amazon or buy endgame Thor and sell the figure without the lightning.
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Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:54 pm

Dusty wrote:
Mon Oct 11, 2021 7:37 am
So what kind of paint could I use that wouldn’t crack like acrylic or be sticky like enamels? I’m not planning to give my custom to a kid, but I want to do photos with poses and not worry as much about paint peeling or chipping off easy.
Thanks for the info BTW.
Good quality acrylics will do the trick. Just make sure you're thoroughly cleaning the figure first, and it always helps to sand down the joints and to use a primer to help the paint adhere.
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Thu Oct 14, 2021 3:01 pm

The best customizers here in Brazil use vinyl paint. It doesn't chip at the joints and is quite resistant. You would probably want to apply it with an airbrusher and beware of the fumes.

At least here you can only buy buckets of it, but it's probably easier to find them in the United States in smaller recipients, maybe even in spray cans.
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Thu Oct 14, 2021 3:38 pm

If your paints are chipping it sounds like you're using cheap acrylics. I first used cheap stuff from Michaels craft section on my 3.75" SW figures and yes, they chipped like crazy. I don't really customize anymore but the last couple that I did using Testors turned out great, no chipping or anything else.

If you are going to do more extensive customizing you're going to need to put in the time to do the prep work. Complete disassemble and sanding all the joints.

Speaking of paint, have you guys noticed there seems to be a switch to working around the paint issue whenever possible and just casting the various parts in the actual plastic. Maybe I'm just seeing it with McFarlane, but they are using overlays in their sculpts. Like glove gauntlets will be cast in the proper plastic then fitted over the forearm sculpt. The nice thing is you don't get paint bleed from improperly masked parts.
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Fri Oct 15, 2021 5:50 am

Vallejo Acrylic Paints and Testors have been good but it all comes down to preping the figure well, sanding the joints and then sealing the rub areas of the joints with either brush on super glue or Future Floor Polish.

Can you get away with redying the figure using fabric dye?
I used blue dye on the white Sharon Carter bodies after removing the flesh neck piece to make generic SHIELD females.

Make a mess. So don't do it in the kitchen or with a pot you or more importantly your wife likes. :rolleyes:
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Fri Oct 15, 2021 6:12 pm

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Speaking of paint, have you guys noticed there seems to be a switch to working around the paint issue whenever possible and just casting the various parts in the actual plastic. Maybe I'm just seeing it with McFarlane, but they are using overlays in their sculpts. Like glove gauntlets will be cast in the proper plastic then fitted over the forearm sculpt. The nice thing is you don't get paint bleed from improperly masked parts.
I've started using parts that are cast in the appropriate colours whenever possible as an extra barrier against paint rub, and now I've started casting parts on a larger scale I always try and colour the polyurethane to get it as close as possible to the final colour.
I've also started sculpting certain things seperately and adding them to the figure once painted - for example, I'm working on a figure right now that wears a very specific garment. Instead of sculpting directly onto the figure and having to either mask some awkward areas off or paint around it, I wrapped clingfilm around the figure, sculpted onto that in a semi-flexible compound and once it's all painted I can slip it onto the figure. It's a bit more effort initially, but it saves a ton of time when painting.
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Tue Oct 19, 2021 7:34 am

Yes, for what I know, it's highly toxic. Usually applied on factory with a spray pistol, and at least in theory, used with a heavy filter mask. Some might need even heat to cure, I am not sure.

Now, as a customizer, I very carefully choose the base figure to avoid paint rub in the maximum (its not like in the old days when very few good base figures were available, now you can get nearly any in any colour), and cast a good bit of parts to simply avoid paint rub. When there is no way round (usually with things like MOTUC figures, were you cannot get the figure you want due to their astronomical price) I just cut, and sand very strongly, and apply two very fine layers of paint, that makes it much stronger than one thick layer, and using high quality acrylics, the ones the wargamers use for their small figurines.
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Tue Sep 27, 2022 9:49 am

Duplicate post, sorry.
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Tue Sep 27, 2022 9:50 am

I’m not happy with McFarlanes Arkham city Batman eyes, I am tired of using acrylic, besides paint used by big companies, what paint would work best just to dab on and not have it rub off for any reason?
Enamels, Epoxy Paint, Polyurethane paint, or paint with one of those then use superglue as a sealant?
Thanks for any help.

*Rather a paint that would be safe for a kid to use and not destroy, lol.


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Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:15 am

Dusty wrote:
Tue Sep 27, 2022 9:50 am
I’m not happy with McFarlanes Arkham city Batman eyes, I am tired of using acrylic, besides paint used by big companies, what paint would work best just to dab on and not have it rub off for any reason?
Enamels, Epoxy Paint, Polyurethane paint, or paint with one of those then use superglue as a sealant?
Thanks for any help.

*Rather a paint that would be safe for a kid to use and not destroy, lol.


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What paint are you using that just rubs off? Besides not doing any prep on the figure, and sealing afterwards, most acrylic paint customizers use for painting figures should adhere pretty well.

Most customizers use, from what I've seen over the years, Army Painter (https://www.thearmypainter.com/), Vallejo (https://acrylicosvallejo.com/en/), and Citadel Colour (https://citadelcolour.com/).

Two more I see mentioned from time to time are Scalecolor paint and Reaper paint.

This isn't to say that standard craft paints can't work, they just take a little more work to get them to adhere and cover properly.
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Re: Anyone ever tried using paint toy companies use…

Fri Sep 30, 2022 8:50 pm

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What paint are you using that just rubs off? Besides not doing any prep on the figure, and sealing afterwards, most acrylic paint customizers use for painting figures should adhere pretty well.
Boldface mine -- this is the key. I've used tons of different paint brands, and even the best of them will rub off if the joints aren't prepped. (Hell, remember NECA and Marvel Select figures from about a decade ago? Even those paints would flake off joints like crazy upon first handling a figure.) I have other reasons for avoiding the very cheapest craft paints, but even they'll not chip if there's no friction to make them chip. And on the other end, unless you're using enamels that eat into the plastic, even pricier vinyl sprays will chip if there's sufficient friction to make it do so.
Dusty wrote: I’m not happy with McFarlanes Arkham city Batman eyes, I am tired of using acrylic, besides paint used by big companies, what paint would work best just to dab on and not have it rub off for any reason?
That said, you shouldn't have joint rub if you're painting eyes! The paint will, however, scratch off if you run your nail over it or something. That's just the nature of the beast.

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