Four Horsemen - Mythic Legions

[SalemCrow]

Oof, appreciate the heads up.

I still can't get any confirmation at all on whether or not I have the Male Orc Builder as part of my order. I've paid for the 2 pack, and the Orc is listed on my survey, however I never paid for the Orc at all. The only extra fee is the shipping costs which is in line with what I'd expect.

The email for the game people is [email protected]. I was emailing it for months with no answer until recently. There were a lot of pissed people on the Cabal complaining, and one of the group admins got ahold of the game people. Now they're finally answering the emails.

glad I'm not the only one over this "companies' " garbage handling of this situation. I sent them a polite inquiry months ago on IG and have yet to hear anything back, as I said in an earlier post, good luck to anyone that got in on the game they are making. I'm getting huge "Friday the 13th the game" vibes from these people, expect to never have this game update in a remotely timely manner or possibly at all, if this is an overall sign.

I'm sure the Horseman aren't happy about having to clean up this mess, with all of their own things going on right now.

They seem to choose some of the worst people to work on related product for their IPs. The "studio" tasked with creating the comic during the first KS was absolute garbage, and caused that to be around 2 years late, and had to have digital copies sent to all the backers that had it ordered, until it was actually printed, and the "trading cards" were worse than the kind you would find in something like Disney Channel magazine.

[offrampclimber]

They are removable. They are attached with a little elastic to the shoulder pauldrons.

Good to know; thanks!

The Kickstarter figures are out in hand in china, I've only seen the two pack and the male orc in pics. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yijMbZ4dCjk&t=4

Oh boy, please tell me those capes will be removable... they look rather not good.

agreed. but I want to say it's how he has them positioned. personally, I will be wrapping the straps around the armor piece like they show, but i will be tucking the cape under the paldrons. it'd be a crime to cover them, with how nice they look. hopefully that works.

That hopefully wouldn't look as bad, but I'm worried that they would still have to strap on to the outside of the pauldron somehow.

[Ziero01]

The email for the game people is [email protected]. I was emailing it for months with no answer until recently. There were a lot of pissed people on the Cabal complaining, and one of the group admins got ahold of the game people. Now they're finally answering the emails.

glad I'm not the only one over this "companies' " garbage handling of this situation. I sent them a polite inquiry months ago on IG and have yet to hear anything back, as I said in an earlier post, good luck to anyone that got in on the game they are making. I'm getting huge "Friday the 13th the game" vibes from these people, expect to never have this game update in a remotely timely manner or possibly at all, if this is an overall sign.

I'm sure the Horseman aren't happy about having to clean up this mess, with all of their own things going on right now.

They seem to choose some of the worst people to work on related product for their IPs. The "studio" tasked with creating the comic during the first KS was absolute garbage, and caused that to be around 2 years late, and had to have digital copies sent to all the backers that had it ordered, until it was actually printed, and the "trading cards" were worse than the kind you would find in something like Disney Channel magazine.

I get the feeling they do a lot of work with "friends of friends" type of thing, where they know someone who knows someone and they want to give them a shot. In theory it's nice that they're helping smaller companies and less known artists and designers....in practice there's a reason why none of these people made it on their own.

That said, the very idea of Mythic Legion's story being told through a game was doomed from the start. Should've just found some people to do some mini-web comics or do what they're doing with Cosmic and have mini story essays on their blog. The lore and storytelling certainly isn't the main draw of this franchise, but it's nice when it's there. But to go full on and try and make a huge sweeping game about it, and using an unknown studio to do so, is lunacy at best.

[domu]

They seem to choose some of the worst people to work on related product for their IPs. The "studio" tasked with creating the comic during the first KS was absolute garbage, and caused that to be around 2 years late, and had to have digital copies sent to all the backers that had it ordered, until it was actually printed, and the "trading cards" were worse than the kind you would find in something like Disney Channel magazine.

I'm glad that I'm not the only one whose been around long enough to remember stuff like this. Don't forget the shitshow that was Megalopolis.

The unfortunate difference from then to now, is that back then, the fans weren't afraid to call bullshit when the 4H did something stupid, like trying to pass off 6 of the 36 cards as a "set of cards" because the Kickstarter description didn't say you'd get a "full" set of cards (only, it did, just not everywhere), because the idiots they contracted to make them couldn't afford to print enough or whatever. Now, they're stuck in the echo chamber of the Cabal facebook group, where everything has to be Jeremy approved, where you'd get banned for saying something negative/truthful about Megalopolis because they were friends with the right person. Btw, in case anyone didn't know, Walter may be the public face of the Cabal, but he no longer calls the shots over there. It's owned fully by the 4H. It's a giant, never-ending advertisement masquerading as a fan group. That's why Walter isn't allowed to mention or like anything like the Savage Crucible Kickstarter.

Now, they can still be swayed by public shaming, like with the overturning of the obvious shadow banning of any mention of Savage Crucible, but they've strayed from some of the principles that made me such a fan of theirs. Stuff like convention exclusives not available through any other means except attending the show were something they just never did until recently. It could still be hard to get some of their toys back then, but it was because they were a small operation, operating within very tight numbers and it was easy to just miss the window of availability. Now, they've exploded in popularity, selling magnitudes more than they ever had before, but for some reason they're leaning into fear marketing techniques more and more. They used to be conscious of their customers' budgets when planning releases. Now, it's a never ending stream of pre-orders.

And despite all of their growth, they still can't keep up with shipping; it looks like I'll be getting my pre-order of All Star 5 figures shipped after someone who just places an order right now from any number of online stores. There was a time I would not even hesitate to place a direct pre-order with them. Now, the benefits of cost after shipping and arrival time are shrinking rapidly when balanced against having to pay up front 6 months to 2 years before getting the product.

It's legit sad for me. They still put out amazing figures, but they used to be something more, something special. Now they're just like anyone else.

[spinc]

To be honest, the very idea of the game doesn't sound appealing to me. I think they should have done a Gauntlet-styled/hyrule warriors-like hack and slash, where you can pick any character you like and just fight a ton of enemies. Add a customize your own character from the parts and you could have a fun game. Instead it's a boring (to me) top-down army strategy game.

[domu]

I get the feeling they do a lot of work with "friends of friends" type of thing, where they know someone who knows someone and they want to give them a shot. In theory it's nice that they're helping smaller companies and less known artists and designers....in practice there's a reason why none of these people made it on their own.

That said, the very idea of Mythic Legion's story being told through a game was doomed from the start. Should've just found some people to do some mini-web comics or do what they're doing with Cosmic and have mini story essays on their blog. The lore and storytelling certainly isn't the main draw of this franchise, but it's nice when it's there. But to go full on and try and make a huge sweeping game about it, and using an unknown studio to do so, is lunacy at best.

It's still baffles me just how bad they are at it.
Look at how much better the Savage Crucible comic is in comparison to the Mythic Legions comic. And it was done before the Kickstarter. And the SC crew put out a cool animation already, something the 4H seemed to have given up on after dipping their toes into it years ago.
Toy Pizza/Knights of the Slice is a one man company. He still pumps out story on a monthly, even weekly basis, in the form of prose, comics and videos, with the help of artists he's established relationships with. You can feel the passion he has for what he's doing.
The Cosmic stuff is a decent start, I suppose, but overall, the 4H's effort at building anything beyond the toys feels a little lazy and uninspired.

[domu]

To be honest, the very idea of the game doesn't sound appealing to me. I think they should have done a Gauntlet-styled/hyrule warriors-like hack and slash, where you can pick any character you like and just fight a ton of enemies. Add a customize your own character from the parts and you could have a fun game. Instead it's a boring (to me) top-down army strategy game.

Honestly, who isn't going to find it boring? Have they even mentioned any gameplay elements that would make it stand out from the crowd? Aside from the license, this game will appeal to no one.

The graphics looked dated from the beginning, and that was years ago. They should have gone with a style that wasn't trying to compete with games way out of their budget range.

The fortunate thing, as others mentioned, is that almost no one backed the Kickstarter for the game, so they won't have many disappointed customers when it arrives as a pile of shit, if it arrives at all.

[Visionary]

They seem to choose some of the worst people to work on related product for their IPs. The "studio" tasked with creating the comic during the first KS was absolute garbage, and caused that to be around 2 years late, and had to have digital copies sent to all the backers that had it ordered, until it was actually printed, and the "trading cards" were worse than the kind you would find in something like Disney Channel magazine.

I'm glad that I'm not the only one whose been around long enough to remember stuff like this. Don't forget the shitshow that was Megalopolis.

The unfortunate difference from then to now, is that back then, the fans weren't afraid to call bullshit when the 4H did something stupid, like trying to pass off 6 of the 36 cards as a "set of cards" because the Kickstarter description didn't say you'd get a "full" set of cards (only, it did, just not everywhere), because the idiots they contracted to make them couldn't afford to print enough or whatever. Now, they're stuck in the echo chamber of the Cabal facebook group, where everything has to be Jeremy approved, where you'd get banned for saying something negative/truthful about Megalopolis because they were friends with the right person. Btw, in case anyone didn't know, Walter may be the public face of the Cabal, but he no calls the shots over there. It's owned fully by the 4H. It's a giant, never-ending advertisement masquerading as a fan group. That's why Walter isn't allowed to mention or like anything like the Savage Crucible Kickstarter.

Now, they can still be swayed by public shaming, like with the overturning of the obvious shadow banning of any mention of Savage Crucible, but they've strayed from some of the principles that made me such a fan of theirs. Stuff like convention exclusives not available through any other means except attending the show were something they just never did until recently. It could still be hard to get some of their toys back then, but it was because they were a small operation, operating within very tight numbers and it was easy to just miss the window of availability. Now, they've exploded in popularity, selling magnitudes more than they ever had before, but for some reason they're leaning into fear marketing techniques more and more. They used to be conscious of their customers' budgets when planning releases. Now, it's a never ending stream of pre-orders.

And despite all of their growth, they still can't keep up with shipping; it looks like I'll be getting my pre-order of All Star 5 figures shipped after someone who just places an order right now from any number of online stores. There was a time I would not even hesitate to place a direct pre-order with them. Now, the benefits of cost after shipping and arrival time are shrinking rapidly when balanced against having to pay up front 6 months to 2 years before getting the product.

It's legit sad for me. They still put out amazing figures, but they used to be something more, something special. Now they're just like anyone else.

Agree with all this. The taste from 4H studios has become more sour than sweet lately.
The Power Con Demistros Exclusive being the most recent foul taste.Yes I would like the clear head as well with the regular release.
I remember when they were SOOOOOO against this practice. What happened?!

I hate to say it but I can see an off ramp coming up soon if there is more exclusion like that,even though I would like to be there for the 10 year anniversary of Mythic Legions.

[Visionary]

As for the video game. Just give me the figures I paid for and I’m good.

[Ziero01]

I'm putting the exclusive stuff being exclusive squarely on the fans. I remember back in the day when they wanted to make Sir Valgard available for sale after the KS itself ended and fans lost their minds. I forget if it was through backerkit or the in-stock sale, but people were flipping lids at the thought of "others" being able to buy this "kickstarter exclusive" figure outside of the kickstarter. It took the 4H by surprise how hungry people were for actual, limited access products and they've been kind of dabbling in it ever since.

Personally, I don't really mind the exclusive head/color thing the 4H use. They still put the figure up for general sale at some point and most times the figure looks fine with it's more common head anyway. I mean, I'm not really missing out because the general release of the Furious Four didn't have the cat head, and the Unknown one isn't really that worse off without the skull (though I think the Unknown one is just a boring figure to begin with).

Even with this....non-mythic legions Demon dude, yea the clear green head is awesome, but so is his bone demon skull head. Though I do wish the standard version also came with bare hands done in some solid color, but it's not a huge loss here either.

[christianpyro]

I'm putting the exclusive stuff being exclusive squarely on the fans. I remember back in the day when they wanted to make Sir Valgard available for sale after the KS itself ended and fans lost their minds. I forget if it was through backerkit or the in-stock sale, but people were flipping lids at the thought of "others" being able to buy this "kickstarter exclusive" figure outside of the kickstarter. It took the 4H by surprise how hungry people were for actual, limited access products and they've been kind of dabbling in it ever since.

I remember some of the Sir Valgard debate. But honestly I wouldn't put the fans at fault there, that was squarly on the 4H.

Here is how Sir valgard was announced, and purchased:

The Mythic Legions Kickstarter exclusive figure Sir Valgard has been revealed and posted as the $180,000.00 stretch goal and will be available as an add-on for ONLY $25.00, including shipping within the US!! Sir Valgard will never be available for purchase again after this Kickstarter campaign is over. Not even through our online retail outlet, Store Horsemen. This final week will be your ONLY chance to get this character, so be sure to get him before his golden butt is gone forever!!

The 4H can't advertise him that way and then later add him to Store Horsemen. I would have loved to have purchased Sir Valgard nice and cheap, and had to resort to the secondary market at the time, but even I agreed that the 4H couldn't go back on their word. Not when it was so emphatic and definite.

[nilocomic]

It’s weird that they originally put this small-time video game company in charge of shipping out the figures. Doesn’t make any sense when the 4H have a system in place for dealing with the logistics of this stuff.

[MurderByDeath]

As for the video game. Just give me the figures I paid for and I’m good.

same, I try to drown out the drama of the behind the scenes stuff, just give me toys, and I'm happy. Same with Valaverse. Any company is going to have issues and sour grapes from some people, no matter what they sell. When they burn me, i'll complain. I got enough of my own battles to deal with. Staring at cool figures in my collection is how i get away from that.

[spinc]

Would anyone that has both Duban and Father Christmas post a photo of the snout helmet on Duban's body? I wanna see if the silvers match at least a bit.

[Akatsuki]

The new Green Knight is so nice!!


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