G.I. Joe Classified Series

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Re: G.I. Joe Classified Series

Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:47 pm

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The only canon that matters to me is the Hama comic series - Marvel's original run and the IDW that picks up from the Marvel run. There is some good non-Hama Joe stuff out there (Jerwa's run for Devil's Due, for example), but 'officially' none of that exists at this point.

I watched the cartoon as a kid, of course, but it is far inferior IMO.
Same, GI Joe comics were the canon I followed as a kid. The cartoons were fun to watch after school but every month I would eagerly await for my GI Joe Marvel Comic subscription to arrive in the mailbox. Just amazing story lines and character building.
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Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:52 pm

See that’s what I’m talking about. I miss all those quirks and interesting life experiences each character had that was revealed in the file cards. I mean my kids keep asking me who each of the Joes are and I have to provide them with my very faded knowledge for each of them. Either that or tell them to google it. It would be nice if the file cards were on the back of the boxes again. Funniest thing my oldest son asked me if Zartan was some kind of serial killer since he has all these pieces of animal parts on him and a human face in his backpack. I said no he’s a master of disguise. My kid then asks if he cuts off the faces of his victims and then assumes their identity. I’m like…..well back in the day he wasn’t like that but who knows with this new version. See why file cards are important even now? Lol.
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Re: G.I. Joe Classified Series

Thu Jun 24, 2021 5:06 pm

Larry Hama's backstory and work on the comic was stellar. I always felt the comic rose well above its source material (much like ROM).

Ditto his contributions to the characters in the toy line. While I can't say that info figured in heavily to my play with the toys, it definitely enhanced my feelings about them. Loved the filecards.
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Re: G.I. Joe Classified Series

Thu Jun 24, 2021 5:22 pm

While the Joe filecards were a great thing, they're not going to happen. Hasbro's packaging (across all their brands) are created to be multi-lingual and useful across the globe. So printing a bio in English won't work as well across the globe. I think it would be better to put QR codes on each figure, which when scanned takes you to a bio page on Hasbro's website. We're living in the digital age, so putting bio card info online and not on physical packaging just makes more sense.

That said, I haven't really investigated the GI Joe site. Do they already have character info there?

There is an issue of someone having to write the bio info. Since Larry Hama was writing the comic, it made sense for him to be involved with the bio cards. Hasbro would need someone to oversee all the character info and story elements. When the brand is jumpstarting itself over and over, they probably don't want to tie themselves too far into specific info for characters. Still, some basic online bios would be neat. Skillsets. A quote about the character like the filecards had. Just a little bit.
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Re: G.I. Joe Classified Series

Thu Jun 24, 2021 5:39 pm

I wouldn’t mind if they had online bios as long as it’s specific to this Classified line and not their original RAH ones since obviously some of the info from some characters need to be updated or slightly changed to fit modern times. I doubt SnakeEyes can be a veteran of the Vietnam War now…..unless he was frozen in ice. But yeah something online for new fans to look at and read about would be nice. And I’d actually go for full bios like the original RAH. I don’t think it’s so much that Hasbro doesn’t want to tie these characters down with alot of info, but more like they didn’t think the line would be as popular as they originally thought and decided not to put the money into hiring someone who could do the write up.
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Re: G.I. Joe Classified Series

Thu Jun 24, 2021 5:43 pm

H-Bird just linked the online bios 7 or 8 posts up.
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Re: G.I. Joe Classified Series

Thu Jun 24, 2021 5:57 pm

T'Chaka wrote:
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Americans have all kinds of different skin colors, of course.
Although I did always get the feeling (especially in the more-nuanced comic-book origin) that Cobra had a white-nationalist-militia vibe starting out, and it was a looooooooong time before there were identified Cobra agents who weren’t of obvious white-European descent (other than Storm Shadow, of course).
Sorry, I deleted the words I wrote before “American” because I didn’t want to say something controversial, but yes, that’s the same vibe I got. I also am more familiar with the comics and toys than the cartoon, so that may have something to do with my perception as well.

Not that Cobra wouldn't use minorities for particular roles, but I never got the feeling that a minority member of Cobra would be anything higher than a specialist. All the leadership I knew of were racially identifiable as white. Then the whole cloning aspect and the Crimson Guard stuck me as vaguely nazi-esque as a kid. I thought the whole point of stressing the GI Joe teams inclusivity was to highlight how the villains were not diverse.

Also, I should stress that just because some members were aligned with Cobra, I didn’t think they were part of the organization proper. The Iron Grenadiers seems like an associated organization in it for the money, same as the Night Creepers and the Headhunters. The Drednoks were just a weird gang to me.

To Ro-El’s point, I agree and have stressed since wave 1 that the filecards are an integral part of the GI Joe line. The fact that they aren’t included is either because the toys brand management team can’t/don’t want to tie themselves to a mythology (for reasons related to other uses of the IP), they don’t feel qualified to update the bios, or they were too lazy to write anything.
If your not familiar, check out Shock Viper Leader Lt. Clay Moore. He is a black and in a leadership position in Cobra. I have a custom, but hasbro needs to make him imo and yes to file cards
Clay.. Moore…. Ugh. That’s an unnecessary bad pun.
Somebody had a sense of humor, naming him. Still, a good example of some representative diversity in Cobra.
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Re: G.I. Joe Classified Series

Thu Jun 24, 2021 5:59 pm

No reveals on todays stream?
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Re: G.I. Joe Classified Series

Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:11 pm

Doesn't seem like it. The movie basics are up for pre-order on Pulse now though. Release dates of 12/1/2021 and 2/1/2022
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Re: G.I. Joe Classified Series

Thu Jun 24, 2021 7:09 pm

DetectiveHoag wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 5:57 pm
T'Chaka wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:47 pm
supreme-d wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 3:04 am

Sorry, I deleted the words I wrote before “American” because I didn’t want to say something controversial, but yes, that’s the same vibe I got. I also am more familiar with the comics and toys than the cartoon, so that may have something to do with my perception as well.

Not that Cobra wouldn't use minorities for particular roles, but I never got the feeling that a minority member of Cobra would be anything higher than a specialist. All the leadership I knew of were racially identifiable as white. Then the whole cloning aspect and the Crimson Guard stuck me as vaguely nazi-esque as a kid. I thought the whole point of stressing the GI Joe teams inclusivity was to highlight how the villains were not diverse.

Also, I should stress that just because some members were aligned with Cobra, I didn’t think they were part of the organization proper. The Iron Grenadiers seems like an associated organization in it for the money, same as the Night Creepers and the Headhunters. The Drednoks were just a weird gang to me.

To Ro-El’s point, I agree and have stressed since wave 1 that the filecards are an integral part of the GI Joe line. The fact that they aren’t included is either because the toys brand management team can’t/don’t want to tie themselves to a mythology (for reasons related to other uses of the IP), they don’t feel qualified to update the bios, or they were too lazy to write anything.
If your not familiar, check out Shock Viper Leader Lt. Clay Moore. He is a black and in a leadership position in Cobra. I have a custom, but hasbro needs to make him imo and yes to file cards
Clay.. Moore…. Ugh. That’s an unnecessary bad pun.
Somebody had a sense of humor, naming him. Still, a good example of some representative diversity in Cobra.
So, the story with “Clay Moore” is this: there is *one* episode of the original Sunbow cartoon that has a Black Cobra Officer character featured who is referred to as “Lt. Claymore” in-episode: he’s a one-off “focus” Cobra character at a time when there weren’t many. The now-defunct Joe Collectors Club decided to make an exclusive figure based on this character, but there is *already* a Joe named Captain Claymore (he was exclusive to the “Special Missions: Brazil” set and is fairly obscure; he was essentially a repaint of Footloose), so the Club made the super-creative decision of calling their version of the cartoon Cobra character “Lt. Clay Moore”, which was, in my opinion, pretty goofy.
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Re: G.I. Joe Classified Series

Thu Jun 24, 2021 7:55 pm

I was part of a Cobra costuming group many years ago. At one show we were approached by some Hasbro reps who gushed over our costumes, concept, etc...then one said something to the order of "We just wish you guys had a little more diversity in the ranks". Which we thought was ironic given we were all costuming as generic blue suit troopers, which in toy reality at the time were all white males, and there were 3 white guys, 2 white women, and 1 Panamanian Hispanic guy standing in front of him.

Later that year they released a VvV Cobra 6-pack which had what I believe is the first Hasbro released non-white-dude trooper. I think the first female trooper was 2007.
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Re: G.I. Joe Classified Series

Thu Jun 24, 2021 8:13 pm

aceofknaves wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 7:09 pm
DetectiveHoag wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 5:57 pm
T'Chaka wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:47 pm


If your not familiar, check out Shock Viper Leader Lt. Clay Moore. He is a black and in a leadership position in Cobra. I have a custom, but hasbro needs to make him imo and yes to file cards
Clay.. Moore…. Ugh. That’s an unnecessary bad pun.
Somebody had a sense of humor, naming him. Still, a good example of some representative diversity in Cobra.
So, the story with “Clay Moore” is this: there is *one* episode of the original Sunbow cartoon that has a Black Cobra Officer character featured who is referred to as “Lt. Claymore” in-episode: he’s a one-off “focus” Cobra character at a time when there weren’t many. The now-defunct Joe Collectors Club decided to make an exclusive figure based on this character, but there is *already* a Joe named Captain Claymore (he was exclusive to the “Special Missions: Brazil” set and is fairly obscure; he was essentially a repaint of Footloose), so the Club made the super-creative decision of calling their version of the cartoon Cobra character “Lt. Clay Moore”, which was, in my opinion, pretty goofy.
Now I can see Claymore as a military codename. It’s a mine, and a sword. But “Clay Moore”, just made me groan. (No offense intended to anyone out there actually named that.)
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Re: G.I. Joe Classified Series

Thu Jun 24, 2021 8:42 pm

RoboKillah wrote:
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H-Bird just linked the online bios 7 or 8 posts up.
I missed that. That’s actually pretty cool.
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Re: G.I. Joe Classified Series

Fri Jun 25, 2021 4:33 am

DetectiveHoag wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 5:57 pm
T'Chaka wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:47 pm
supreme-d wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 3:04 am

Sorry, I deleted the words I wrote before “American” because I didn’t want to say something controversial, but yes, that’s the same vibe I got. I also am more familiar with the comics and toys than the cartoon, so that may have something to do with my perception as well.

Not that Cobra wouldn't use minorities for particular roles, but I never got the feeling that a minority member of Cobra would be anything higher than a specialist. All the leadership I knew of were racially identifiable as white. Then the whole cloning aspect and the Crimson Guard stuck me as vaguely nazi-esque as a kid. I thought the whole point of stressing the GI Joe teams inclusivity was to highlight how the villains were not diverse.

Also, I should stress that just because some members were aligned with Cobra, I didn’t think they were part of the organization proper. The Iron Grenadiers seems like an associated organization in it for the money, same as the Night Creepers and the Headhunters. The Drednoks were just a weird gang to me.

To Ro-El’s point, I agree and have stressed since wave 1 that the filecards are an integral part of the GI Joe line. The fact that they aren’t included is either because the toys brand management team can’t/don’t want to tie themselves to a mythology (for reasons related to other uses of the IP), they don’t feel qualified to update the bios, or they were too lazy to write anything.
If your not familiar, check out Shock Viper Leader Lt. Clay Moore. He is a black and in a leadership position in Cobra. I have a custom, but hasbro needs to make him imo and yes to file cards
Clay.. Moore…. Ugh. That’s an unnecessary bad pun.
Somebody had a sense of humor, naming him. Still, a good example of some representative diversity in Cobra.
I'm confused... What's Clay Moore a pun of?

I've heard of a figure sculptor named Clayburn Moore. I don't know if he has anything to do with Joes though
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Re: G.I. Joe Classified Series

Fri Jun 25, 2021 4:44 am

MRT wrote:
DetectiveHoag wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 5:57 pm
T'Chaka wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:47 pm
If your not familiar, check out Shock Viper Leader Lt. Clay Moore. He is a black and in a leadership position in Cobra. I have a custom, but hasbro needs to make him imo and yes to file cards
Clay.. Moore…. Ugh. That’s an unnecessary bad pun.
Somebody had a sense of humor, naming him. Still, a good example of some representative diversity in Cobra.
I'm confused... What's Clay Moore a pun of?

I've heard of a figure sculptor named Clayburn Moore. I don't know if he has anything to do with Joes though
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