@panthercult BBTS gets their Super7 stock shipped to them from the factory in China so it probably ended up on a different boat or something. I've been waiting on the new Ghost figure myself and some of the Simpsons Ultimates which Super7 has already shipped. It's such a crapshoot trying to guess who will get what first when placing the initial preorder.
Seeing rumors that all of the Glenn Danzig figures got cancelled. Super7's website still as the MOTU style Jerry Only and Misfits Fiend displayed, but the Misfits Glenn along with the Samhain and Danzig era figures are gone. Veebs, who is a big Misfits fan, does a monthly interview with Flynn so hopefully he can ask him about it. Bummer if true and I definitely don't want the Jerry and Fiend figures if there will be no Danzig. He can be tough when it comes to approvals so maybe he didn't like them? Or he wanted more money than what Jerry was getting.
@wickerbasket It makes a lot of sense. I hope it is true (and believe it likely is). Brian is infuriating with his smug stubbornness and not listening to his customers. Can't wait to see if in the next video where Veebs fawns over him, if this is brought up or mentioned.
@wickerbasket It makes a lot of sense. I hope it is true (and believe it likely is). Brian is infuriating with his smug stubbornness and not listening to his customers. Can't wait to see if in the next video where Veebs fawns over him, if this is brought up or mentioned.
whoops, deleted the post you were responding to. here it is again
I actually ran across an unboxing/review earlier:
I will say, i think they look like trash. Especially Jack and that horrible, horrible soft goods jacket. Like what were they even thinking with that?
Yeah, that Jack doesn’t look very good. The soft goods coat is just the wrong approach. The newish NECA one looks bad too, though at least their portrait looks more in model. Something looks off with the Super7 heads. Like they’re half formed lumps of clay.
Fascinating stuff on a potential reorg at Super7. The way that individual phrases it makes it sound like Brian did indeed approve a bunch of shitty factory outputs. Something is obviously going to have to change there because I don’t see how their sales could be going well right now.
Hol'up. Someone invested 37m into Super7?
Hol'up. Someone invested 37m into Super7?
I remember it making the toy community news a while back. I'd imagine that person has to be pretty unhappy. It's almost like Flynn got the money and stopped caring as much. There was a time they tried to make running changes when fans were unhappy and then of course sent out parts to fix their mistakes as well. I think the only incident of that happening since the big investment was the situation with Moe's missing apron.
@justice I don't think they've really gotten any worse, I think they just got too big. Their standards of quality have never been great, and with all of the licenses they have they're exposed to more collectors. When they screw up only a couple of Ultimates per year they can afford to fix them, but now that's spread across multiple lines so we're just stuck with what we get, for the most part. And I wouldn't be surprised if it's the people putting up the money who are saying "No" to any sort of fixes for stuff that's no good. Not that I want to make Flynn out to be a hero with that sort of stuff, it would be a lot better to just not screw it up to begin with.
EDIT: Just got cancellation emails from BBTS for all 3 Danzig figures. I was thinking maybe the Misfits era version would make it through since sales of the other two will absolutely be impacted, but that one was cancelled too. This tells me that the issue is likely with Danzig's side since, as of right now, the two other Misfits figures are not cancelled (though I will be cancelling my order). Glenn may have just been unhappy with how they turned out or wanted changes that broke the MOTU aesthetic Super7 was going for (and prevented the parts reuse they likely wanted). Or it could have just been money related. Either way, I'm disappointed, but at least I get to save about $150 now. I don't think these were worth the $30 Super7 was charging, but I was willing to extend for my Misfits/Samhain/Danzig collection and suck it up.
How often do Super7 figures stick around long enough to go on sale? I know I've seen a couple of the Disney ones at my local Macy's that haven't seemed to move at all. But they did sell through their Super7 TMNT figures. I am still debating that Oogie, but I don't know if it's worth $60ish bucks. I could totally be misremembering, but I wanna say I heard somewhere a while ago, around the time that the NBX figures were announced, that it would be a smaller run? Or something along those lines? Or that the Super7 Ultimates in general were smaller runs? I dunno. But I seem to recall there being a reason I pre-ordered, beyond just loving the character.
@joshsquash729 there is historically plenty of stock for the items solicited from 2020 - 2022. NBX may be unique in that it's the last of the Disney Ultimates which was an underperforming line and preorders may have been soft. Considering how little chatter is out there on the line, I would think it was a smaller batch. On the other hand, it didn't get cancelled so obviously enough product was ordered to go into production. The line was cancelled before release though, so a lot of late preorder cancellations may have also taken place. I guess that's a long-winded way of saying the numbers might be lower than usual, but it could be offset by a lot of people dumping the line too. It's always a gamble whether to wait for a discount or not. If you don't love it at $55 it might be worth the gamble. Since the line is dead, the discounts may come sooner than usual for this as well as the other Disney stuff. I'm personally willing to gamble on the Simpsons Kang and Kodos because $75 is just too rich for me, and if they sell out before getting discounted, then so be it. I'll learn to live without.
Holy hell do those Nightmare Before Christmas figures look terrible. I've never been huge NBC guy anyway - but man there is so much existing Nightmare product out there that these would have to be really strong to be worth the asking price and - oof.
I will be very curious to see what goes on over the next several months with Super7 and its focus, its delivery and its marketing strategy moving forward.
Still sitting here with fingers crossed that Tiger Sharks is on the menu.
One would think the Tiger Sharks license would be cheap. On the other hand, the Silverhawks stuff around me is practically direct-to-clearance at the stores I go to which tells me the first wave sold really bad. I'll be surprised if any of these comic shops ordered anything beyond wave three. That might turn Super7 off from doing a line of toys based on an even more obscure IP, especially if their bottom-line is being more heavily scrutinized than before. If that vehicle they solicited recently goes into production then that will probably be a good sign that Silverhawks is still performing well enough for Super7 to continue down that road to Tiger Sharks.
Yeah... I'm not sure if there was an overconfidence by retailers or if it was the effects of the Covid-Boom-to-recovery-bust process that seems to be hammering every action figure line right now, or what - but Super7's Ultimates product lines started out as a made to order proposition - so the idea that retailers had huge stockpiles they had to clearance was surprising - but the made to order minimum number might still be hittable for something like Tiger Sharks.
And realistically - I'm not sure Ultimates is best served going the MOTU Classics route of delivering every character that ever got screen time - they are probably better served delivering the main characters and moving on, especially with their less-than-top-tier licenses. I think Tiger Sharks they could get away with two waves -
Wave 1 - Mako, Octavia, Walro and T-Ray
Wave 2 - Dolph, Lorca, Bronc and Soultmate
Sure a handful of people would whine about not getting Angel, and bad guys like Shad, Dredge or Captain Bizarrly - but the two waves would be solid enough. (and Soulmate is objectively cooler looking than any of the other villain choices)
And I'd be cool if they did this and then pivoted to two waves for Blackstar and then a wave for Thundarr - and onward... I don't know how viable that is or if it makes more sense to try and wring every last penny out of each license, but I think that's what I'd try.
Or maybe even after doing a dedicated wave for a property start doing mixed license waves. Do a wave of figures that includes one character from each of various different shows they have licenses for - stretch the viability for everything a bit further.
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