Sure I groused about it, but I didn't think it'd actually happen.
It's funny because 24 hours ago I was sure I wouldn't want S7 D&D figures. I'd already paid full price for the Hasbro ones and wasn't about to pay Ultimates! prices for figures I already had. Now that they're a thing, I'm pretty sure I want all of them.
Hank and Sheila don't actually look any better than the Hasbro versions, but I like that Hank can draw his bow and that they'll both at least scale with NECA's D&D figures.
On the other hand, I really hope the energy string and arrow come off the bow for relaxed posing, and I wish there were a hood-up version of Sheila's cloke instead of that...net? I reckon that's being saved for the future translucent version, though. Looking closer, Sheila's cloak is cloth and there IS a hood. Nice.
(I don't know how to share Facebook posts here, but credit where due, I got this news from State-O-Verse on FB)
If Sheila's cloak is cloth and wired then that in itself is worth the Super 7 price for me. Their soft goods are usually really good and a 3rd party cloak itself would run at least half the cost of what Super 7 charges for Ultimates.
Are we getting two Shadow Demons in one pack? It's been a long time since I watched the cartoon but I thought he was just one demon, but now that I think about it maybe I can remember him commanding an army or something. Is this actually him or is it just a generic shadow demon two pack and the main one is coming later?
Hah, I had the same thought on Hank and his bow. I have their Robin Hood figure and he can kind of draw his bow. It's definitely harder than it should be, and it's much easier to have him partially draw it, but not in a ready to fire pose (basically holding the bow at waist level parallel to his belt with the arrow across).
This is an interesting play for Super7. The Hasbro figures were not all that well received so there definitely is likely still some appetite out there for better versions of these characters, I just don't know that Super7 is guaranteed to actually deliver on that. Their Power Rangers vs Hasbro's are just sort of "meh." Both lines have their issues, but the Super7 one is almost twice the cost which made it a hard sell (unless you're patient since much of those have hit clearance). There's also the risk these don't do well enough to warrant multiple waves. For those interested, I'd order from a place like BBTS just in case the first wave goes into production, but the second or third does not if you're looking for a complete collection or bust.
I think it is a VERY strange choice to make figures for a fairly obscure 40 year old cartoon after a high profile line in the same scale failed just one year ago.
I think it is a VERY strange choice to make figures for a fairly obscure 40 year old cartoon after a high profile line in the same scale failed just one year ago.
But it's not strange at all once you look at the details. The D&D movie was more popular than expected, the D&D cartoon figures were more popular than expected - and then they were crap once in-hand. All those details tell a good toy company there's money being left on the table, imho.
I think it is a VERY strange choice to make figures for a fairly obscure 40 year old cartoon after a high profile line in the same scale failed just one year ago.
Do figures take multiple years to develop before they get released?
I think it is a VERY strange choice to make figures for a fairly obscure 40 year old cartoon after a high profile line in the same scale failed just one year ago.
But it's not strange at all once you look at the details. The D&D movie was more popular than expected, the D&D cartoon figures were more popular than expected - and then they were crap once in-hand. All those details tell a good toy company there's money being left on the table, imho.
Plus we're talking about comparing Super7 to Hasbro. What Hasbro considers a failure sales-wise probably looks pretty damn good to Super7. I am curious how far back this agreement goes. I recall Super7 indicating they were caught off-guard when after agreeing to a license for Transformers Hasbro went and announced the RED series. I'm going to assume they learned something from that exchange. It's probably more likely that Hasbro decided it was out on the D&D cartoon and are now willing to license it out.
It is really interesting to see these drop immediately after having a conversation about whether they would do this.
So, covering some of the same ground from the other thread - I'm intrigued but find these just a tad off from what I would have preferred. I wish the sculpts were just a little more "realistic" and a little less cartoon accurate. I want to be able to build these into my existing MOTU/Thundercats/etc display and the likeness being too cartoony detracts from that.
I'm still considering whether I get them and try some head swaps that might work better for what I want or not. I frankly would have preferred if their D&D Ultimates were more upscaled versions of the D&D Reaction figures they are releasing. Those are more interesting to me.
Still, I may pre-order these to show support for the idea that I do want D&D figures in this scale ... hmmm
Super7's humans continue to be pretty awful (that new chick from the latest Thundercats line looks pretty bad still), so woof, not sure how these could turn out better than Hasbro's attempts. Though Hasbro felt like they weren't even trying...what a strange set of circumstances.
There's definitely some appealing things about these. I like the idea of a fabric cloak for Sheila. I like the faces. I like that they're starting out with some world-building characters.
Hasbro's figures were not as good as they could have been, whether due to budget or whatever. They were...fine. They were ok. They filled a spot, but there were aspects that were not playworthy, particularly no thigh articulation and the elbow clearance. I paid full price for them, which was no doubt stupid in hindsight but getting them at the sale prices would have made them more acceptable.
Super7 stuff is often not as good as they should be, which is mostly down to articulation engineering. They are dedicated to single joints, so it's down to making them work the best, and they can be iffy on that. Whether these will be more playable/fun than Hasbro's is the question, but the 55 dollar price point these will no doubt exist in, that playable/fun factor might not be worth it. I don't know.
@adrienveidt Agreed. Look at the popularity of things like Baldur's Gate 3, Critical Role, and Dimension20. DnD is more popular than its been in decades.
To anyone asking about whether Hank can be positioned to draw his bow string, I would have to say probably so. I have Super7’s Cobra Commander Ultimate and I was able to get him into a great archer pose with Hasbro’s Version of the bow. I’m sure these D&D figures will utilize the same articulation.
As far as rating the popularity of D&D by Hasbro’s pitiful release. Those figures were garbage. I can’t wait to see Super7’s Venjer. I am certain it will utilize a soft-goods skirt and is totally going to blow away Hasbro’s little Salt Shaker!
Well Super7’s website confirms that Hank can indeed be posed like a true archer and he even has an extra head with one eye closed to sight his target. Glowing arrow and bowstring can be unclipped from the bow as well for neutral posing. This line is going to be fantastic!
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