Silverhawks

I’m a little surprised at how quickly a local comic shop near me discounted these. They already have Wave 1 down to 30 bucks. Usually they sit on Super7 stuff for awhile at inflated prices. I wonder if they made the determination that the upcoming vac metal figures are going to kill interest in the others? Or maybe they just realized a mall comic shop isn’t the place where shoppers impulse buy figures from a mostly forgotten 80s IP.

I was talking with the owner of a local collectible shop a few weeks back, and he says selling Super7 Ultimates stuff is a lose-lose situation. There's no discount given to them for bulk orders, and if they don't sell, they lose money trying to discount stuff. They aren't going to order any new Super7 Ultimate going forward, and just try to unload as much of their existing stock without losing too much on them.

Did he mention what his cost is? Most comic stores get them via Diamond and I think they end up around $40 per figure. Their caveat is you have to buy them in waves though and you can’t just order extra of popular characters. I usually only see local places stock one set of a given wave and then sit on them for awhile. They’ll also initially try to get $65-$75 for a figure which is just dumb. These things aren’t scarce enough for an aggressive mark-up and it’s not like you have to look hard online to find free shipping. 

Veebs has a chat with Brian up on YouTube and I thought the Silverhawks stuff was the most interesting. Per him, and this could all just be salesmanship on Flynn's part, the vac metal Silverhawks are not selling particularly well at this stage. I'm not sure if they see the orders from their retail partners until closer to the deadline or not, but for now he seems to think the voices asking for this thing online are loud as opposed to plentiful. I did not get the sense the current wave was in danger or not getting produced or anything, but it may play a role on future waves. I guess if you want more vac metal 'hawks you'll want to make that known with your dollars and not your keyboards.

Some definite shadenfreude there.  Only speaking for myself, but I never wanted vac-metal, I wanted shiny metallic paint right from the start.

Then he had the nerve to hold up a shiny metallic painted figure and say "we don't want this."

I'm not sure if he was saying *he* was trying to sell metallic paint and the customers said no, or if the factory was suggesting metallic paint and *he* was saying no, but in either case I hope he enjoys his pile of vac metal bird men.

Same here.  Shiny silver painted figures are all I wanted from this line.

I don't know, Brian.  Maybe they're not selling because you told people they couldn't be done, so they bought the cartoon versions thinking that was the only versions they'd ever get.  And now they don't want to re-buy the same figures again at an even higher price.  But what do I know..

Yet again proving me right in my decision to never spend another dime on anything they produce.

Bryan seems like an extremely confident man with a lot of bad takes. He seemed a bit defensive at several points. I like that he's willing to listen to fan feedback, but he seems to draw the wrong conclusions, or by the time he comes around to draw them, the ships may have sailed so to say. 

I'm with you, Fletch - metallic paint from the jump was the way to go. Asking for a niche fanbase to double buy a more fragile version of what they already own seems like a tenuous business pitch at best. 

Retro toys seem to be his main passion and I think he's largely disinterested in making competitive modern articulated figures and dealing with the competition and criticism that comes with that higher level game. Vac metal might have been fun on special Silverhawks ReActions that had ball jointed shoulders. Off topic, but his Sesame Street takes were really telling. He sees Sesame Street figures as retro things that you will associate with retro toys from the 70's, ignoring that the Palisade's Muppets line is legendary and that people regularly mourn that line's cancelation before they got into Sesame Street. Henson collectors already have tons of retro Sesame Street figures in all sorts of shapes and sizes from the past 50 years. What they want is what they don't have - modern articulated versions of these beloved characters, especially ones that could pass in scale with Palisades or DST. Do them well and they'd be centerpieces for those collections. 

I'm probably in the minority here, but I prefer Ramen Toys Silverhawk's over S7.

Ramen Toys did so much stuff right with their Silverhawks. I was scared off by the price tag, though, and the awareness that they wouldn't match style-wise with my Thundercats.

I wish Super7 had seen these and thought "wait, shiny metal AND the bird sits on his arm? I want to do that too!"

I can get the birds to sit on the arms of my figures. They won't survive an earthquake or a large truck driving by, but they can stay on their arms balanced.

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I'm probably in the minority here, but I prefer Ramen Toys Silverhawk's over S7.

You're not. They feel way sturdier than S7. And I don't have to worry about loose joints and paint flakes/chipping everywhere.

@brohara182 

I'm hoping Ace gives us the rest of the team at some point. Ramen Toys is killing it with the 3rd party options. 

According to Super7's website, Ultimates Wave 4 will arrive before Wave 3.