Side note: shouldn't Rogue be lining up to take a shot from that cannon?
TBF, we might see some of that now that she presumably knows such a thing exists. That said, I'm not sure she'd want to socially speaking knowing how much it hurt Storm. Wanting to touch is one thing, wanting to effectively stop being a mutant altogether has more weight to it within that group. This also might be complicated by Magneto's presence. There's at least one person she can touch... I don't think that relationship was shown in the first series but I could be misremembering. They might've retconned some new stuff in there. We've also had a year long time jump where stuff might've happened.
Side note: shouldn't Rogue be lining up to take a shot from that cannon?
TBF, we might see some of that now that she presumably knows such a thing exists. That said, I'm not sure she'd want to socially speaking knowing how much it hurt Storm. Wanting to touch is one thing, wanting to effectively stop being a mutant altogether has more weight to it within that group. This also might be complicated by Magneto's presence. There's at least one person she can touch... I don't think that relationship was shown in the first series but I could be misremembering. They might've retconned some new stuff in there. We've also had a year long time jump where stuff might've happened.
There's also the fact that in this universe Rogue already had her stint of looking for a cure and coming to accept being a mutant back when she almost got turned into a minion of Apocalypse by Mystique posing as Dr Adler.
You would think that Rogue might want to keep one of those mutant control collars around though... for recreational purposes.
The original series never did touch on Rogue's past relationship with Magneto, but the original series was also inconsistent about that sort of thing. The first season is treated almost like a Year One for the X-Men. None of them know Magneto, there's no familiarity with Angel, and so on. Then after that they started acknowledging the past and we would see flashbacks of the original, comic accurate, team and other references. I think it was just something that happens when you assemble a team of writers with no familiarity with the brand and they aren't given much direction other than "Write good stuff." That's why the first season isn't really pulled from the comics except for the Days of Future Past two-parter, but we get way more of that when the full series order followed. Given what happened in episode two between Rogue and Magneto, my assumption is that's the show telling us most of the canon we know from before the series started in the comics is essentially true of this version of the X-Men, except for all of the plots that actually occurred in the show (i.e. Phoenix Saga).
I've never been a big X-Men fan, and never watched the original cartoon, but this cartoon was awesome. It had a very fanboy vibe to it, kind of like the recent Masters of the Universe cartoons on Netflix. Things like charging claws and sand-to-glass tornadoes just feel like things a kid from the 90s has been wondering about for 30 years.
I'm a little skeptical that Cyclops can use his eyebeams to push himself back (otherwise, why doesn't that happen every time?) but my own research in physical force powered eyebeams is inconclusive, so I'll allow it.
I enjoyed the third episode quite a bit. Probably not as much as the second, but the show is maintaining its high production values. I do have a criticism forming though in that things feel like they're moving just a bit too fast. I thought they could have let some plot points in this one marinate a bit more to get more out of them, but it's hard to know how much of a criticism that is with the season still ongoing. It feels like these first three episodes were kind of a big reset for the new series and now to see where it goes.
Jean fainting again, WE'RE SO BACK.
I'm still laughing at the Basic Instinct shot they managed to get in there.
My main complaint with the show is the speed at which they're adapting the comic stories.
The voice acting is here or there depending upon who's speaking, but I notice a lot of it sounds very stilted like it was recorded alone with no one else in the room to play off of. Which makes sense since George Buza (sp?) Beast's voice actor even said they don't get to see one another in the recording studio anymore and just come in record their lines alone and then leave. To their credit, both Beast and Storm's voice actors still maintain a very fluid delivery. Wolverine's seems to be improving as the show goes on.
As for the plot lines, they've overlapped Inferno, Trial of Magneto, LifeDeath and to a lesser extent Rogue's "Savage Land" relationship with Magneto, sans jungle and dinosaurs. While I appreciate them wanting to adapt comic stories into the series, the breakneck pace with which they're wrapping these storylines makes me wonder what they'll be left to adapt next. They can't really do much with the Morlock Massacre, as Warren has already become Archangel and Colossus doesn't appear to be on the team, plus the direction the show is going seems to be only forward rather than the 92 show which did do throw-back history episodes. Overall I enjoy the show and do get excited when it comes on, but stories like The Phoenix / Dark Phoenix took 5 episodes to get through. We're essentially done with Inferno in one whole episode and it looks like Trial of Magneto may be as well. I look forward to seeing what else this show has in it, but there seems to be just too much going on in every single episode. Granted it's only a 10 episode season, but still it feels overly speedy.
This episode did feel speedy, and even Storm wasn't even gone an episode. Though her absence in the opening credits hit the feels!
Bishop is also gone with barely a plotline and where did the name Madelyne Pryor even come from? She just whipped that outta nowhere. I didn't think the first two episodes moved too fast, but wrapping this plotline up in one definitely felt swift. The clone is just gone - they're letting a potential Omega-level mutant with mind control issues off on her own? Cyclops just walks away from his baby? That should have been a cliffhanger with both Jeans (Jean Doe - yes, thanks Morph!) disagreeing on what to do next. And how convenient that Bishop's time travel band worked again.
It also cracked me up that they didn't bring Rogue to fight Goblin Queen. Okay. And Roberto was just back like he never left? Not even a line of explanation?
I still like the show, but I agree this episode was too fast-paced. They're operating at a breakneck speed that isn't necessary. Why not make Inferno-lite two episodes? We went from Poltergeist demons to a Maddie/Jean confrontation to a resolution and teaser without a second to breathe. Scott walks out on his newborn son with just a line or two of dialogue to set it up.
Some of the changes to tighten up the story made sense to me. I particularly liked that the writers confined the demons to the mansion. The demons occupy all of Manhattan in the crossover and it's very silly. Morph's cameo as Magik didn't make sense to me. Magik's backstory is probably too convoluted for the show, but I would have tried an abridged version anyway. Why not create a mini New Mutants team on the show? They already have Sunspot. The team could hang out in the mansion when they weren't directly involved in the main plot.
Similar to the Storm situation, my partner was so confused when Bishop left with Nathan. Bishop was only on the show for two episodes. Is he coming back? Unclear. I told her she might recognize Nathan the next time he showed up. She said, "What do you mean, he's not coming right back?" They aren't doing much to explain things to people who aren't already familiar with the stories.
That's what I thought - why doesn't Bishop take the baby to the future, cure him, and just bring him back? Or... put him back in Sinister's tank.
I've never fully understood Maddie's whole thing until this episode - and now this is the version I'll think of. Didn't she start with a cocoon under the ocean or was that how Jean showed up alive in the original series?
I think they are going too fast, but on the other hand, I'm thrilled to see a streaming show embrace its episodic nature and not "feature" decompressed storytelling to eat up screen time and call it an episode.
@schizm the cocoon was how it was explained Jean was alive the whole time. I don't know if it's controversial or not, but the whole Inferno thing in the comics was a huge mess and never a favorite of mine. And it's mostly because it was forced on Claremont who never intended for Madilyn to be anything other than a woman who just happened to look an awful lot like Jean, but Marvel wanted to bring back Jean and off the rails it went. I don't mind the simplified take from X-Men '97, though I do wonder if they'll address when Jean was abducted vs when Madilyn took over or if the resolution of this episode and their conversation was them hand-waving the whole thing off.
I don't mind Roberto just being in the mansion. I like that stuff. I think they're just showing that he and Jubilee have some kind of relationship forming and he was just over there to chill out and watch some movies with her. The time travel stuff is all together murky. I was half-expecting Bishop to hand over his wristband to Madilyn and that would be the way to give her and the baby a send-off and keep Bishop around, trapped in the past.
Anyone pick up the prequel comic that came out yesterday? I grabbed it. Doesn't really elaborate on all that much, but does provide an explanation for why The Nasty Boys weren't present in this most recent episode. The end may also be setting up something of a Morlock Massacre. I think this thing is supposed to run 6 issues or something.
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