My son just pointed out that Captain EO was not, in fact, a Star Wars film as I'd somehow been thinking it was for the past 30 years.
Whose reality is bending to match my assumptions now, bitch?
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Jedi have become so superhuman over the years that no group of ordinary people can stand against them, which I think is a loss to the franchise. Anybody remember how we lossed our minds when Luke deflected blaster bolts? And now we have Vader just pulling space ships out of the sky.
This to me is the main problem; they've gone too big with the force users. They are capable of too much; borderline make regular people irrelevant and contradict way too much of the ideas from 1977 Star Wars where scores of people don't even believe they exist(ed). They tend to make the movies superhero movies and all the weightlessness that entails. Star Wars was always better down in the muck.
Yeah, a potentially non-Jedi Force sensitive character just pulled a key over to him like it was no problem, while Luke barely got his lightsaber out of the snow against the Wampa in TESB. We viewed Luke as a powerful badass with heightened reflexes/lightsaber skills, force chokes and "Jedi mind tricks" in RotJ.
In retrospect you can argue that the Empire tried to erase the Jedi from memory as a myth/legend, hence the skepticism of someone like Han. Of course, Chewy actually met Yoda in the PT but we didn't know that yet...
@fletch I know I saw it at the parks, wonder why it has not been released on video? Seems like it would be a good thing to add to Disney+.
I’m going to need to watch those Skeleton Crew show again. I basically told myself, just go with it and enjoy. There is more to the “empty vault” and I like the twist on the kids home At Attin. I’m curious to see why the Onyx Cinder did the light speed jump to no where. I’m warming up to the kids. Fern is pretty good and seems she could actually survive the adventure especially with her winglady KB. You guys were pointing to SM-33 being too on the nose with the name. Wim is just that too. Whimsical and romanticism of Jedi does describe him. Neel is probably referring to the first man to make the big step and he jumps into new experiences quickly. KB and Fern? Not sure how their name plays into the character. Jod doesn’t seem to be “victim” here. If he can get the key, why didn’t he earlier?
More episodes please.
Thwipp!
Yeah, a potentially non-Jedi Force sensitive character just pulled a key over to him like it was no problem, while Luke barely got his lightsaber out of the snow against the Wampa in TESB. We viewed Luke as a powerful badass with heightened reflexes/lightsaber skills, force chokes and "Jedi mind tricks" in RotJ.
but you realize Luke was just learning how to use the force? Jod is very much older
I think people make too many assumptions before the whole story is even told.
At Attin seems to have been hidden from the Empire & the rest of the galaxy. There is a whole other mystery there! They didn't say yet the why & how. So they appear to remember Jedi still.
Anyone see the Jedi story pics on Wim's pad? I didn't recognize them just wondering if anyone did.
Onyx Cinder speed to nowhere? well a kid pressed a button then again pressed more buttons that stopped it
kids do press buttons for no reason & impulses
Jod isn't really a Jedi that much is true. A failed Jedi maybe? A youngling that escaped possibly? In any case we are still learning his back-story. I would also like to know why he didn't escape yet.
Just some more thoughts:
This show did a good job of exactly matching the "we're looking for adventure" vibe of me and my friends when we were 12 years old in rural Ohio. If it was a ravine or a storm drain or an old building foundation, there were definitely ancient ruins involved. Possibly dating as far back as the Civil War (gasp).
I think the big misfire is that they seem to have picked the wrong main character. If I were still a kid, I'd want my surrogate adventurer to be competent, clever and brave like Fern, not some dipshit who fell ass-backward into an adventure. I even think Fern's family dynamic is more compelling than Wim's.
Of course, KB's still the best, but that just means Fern even has a better sidekick than Wim does.
Also:
Meanwhile, in things I didn't expect to see today -
Episode 227 | Star Wars Holiday Special — Office Ladies
Jenna Fisher and Angela Kinsey from "The Office" spent the last 5 years doing a podcast rewatch of the show (as a fan of The Office I listened to the podcast since just about the start). That ended a month ago but they are doing some Office and some other topics. Angela is a Star Wars fan, Jenna had admitted I think a few years ago she had never seen Star Wars, which was a ongoing discussion point a few times and she finally watched the OT. They spend 90 minutes reviewing the Holiday Special.
I have not listened to this yet as it came out today - when I bopped over to download I was pretty surprised...
I’ve watched a few times now. It’s starting really rev up for me. I do wish Wim was a bit more like Sean Astin’s Mikey character from Goonies. Maybe the adventure and the hard truths with make him a more driven character not just backing into it.
Jod. Obvious plant and not who we are led to believe. I think that Captain character is tied to Onyx Cinder and At Atin.
Jod is going play the kids to have them lead to treasure planet I mean At Atin.
I’m just suspicious of the “obvious” things. Long John Silver character beats are gonna play a part here.
I am aware there are spoilers running about in the interwebs. I’m not partaking. I’m gonna let this unfold.
Thwipp!
When did we hear the name of the ship? I kept waiting for one of the kids to ask. I kinda liked HOW out of the element the kids were in the pirate port. For instance, leaving their purloined starship that they didn't even know the name of to get back to!
Overall, enjoyable so far. Wim isn't the strongest actor but his Dad was bad - I don't think any of his lines felt real. The set-up for getting them on the ship and then lost was pretty well-thought-out. And having the ship be upside down was a cool reveal.
Yes. Wim’s father is terrible. I mean he is working for a secret Imperial or First Order institution but he couldn’t be more detached. I mean if I was told by the school he had to get every answer correct just to pass because he missed the tram and his absent father couldn’t help him, I’m pushing back a bit more for my son. Maybe he gets better.
Thwipp!
On the other hand, I'm glad his dad saw the ship take off with his son. We don't have to worry about the "adults not believing the kids" trope at the end.
Thanks to a recent re-watch of the old SNL sketch Undercover Boss: Kylo Ren, I was reminded how much I really liked the characters from the prequel movies. At least how they were introduced if not how they were actually used.
Looking back at just the trailers for The Force Awakens, I remember being pretty excited for a storm trooper who'd thrown off his conditioning and started on the path to become a Jedi. Back then, Rey was just a scrappy scavenger, Phasma looked cool as shit, and Hux must have been a very charismatic leader to have taken command of the Imperial remnant at such a young age.
I was initially dismissive of Kylo Ren for looking like a fanfic wannabe Vader, but then I found out he was an actual wannabe Vader and was immediately on board.
Then they had Rey be the Jedi trainee, Finn was somehow both a storm trooper AND a janitor, and Phasma immediately folded at the first threat. Hux would later go on to become just a punchline.
None of the sequels are 100% bad, although I think they got worse as they went along. It was fun to remember when they were cool.
Looking back at just the trailers for The Force Awakens, I remember being pretty excited for a storm trooper who'd thrown off his conditioning and started on the path to become a Jedi. Back then, Rey was just a scrappy scavenger, Phasma looked cool as shit, and Hux must have been a very charismatic leader to have taken command of the Imperial remnant at such a young age.
It's funny, because I often don't think the sequel trilogy is quite as bad as people make it out to be - but this succinctly describes why it is not nearly as good as it should have been. The characters they set up were so much better than the characters they delivered.
The unrealized expectation is why the result was so disappointing - well that and the fact that literally nothing they produced would have lived up to 40 years worth of head-canon fantasy.
As for the current show - I think I like the "suburb planet" idea even better knowing that it's basically fake - it's a fantasy planet set up to keep people happy to mask some underlying (nefarious?) purpose. It is interesting to see the pirates react to the kids allowance as treasure and the whisper of their planet as some glorious purpose.
I am intrigued to see more and hope it plays out well. And, corny name aside, SM-33, was a fun take on the surly droid crew member.
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