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New Doctor Who is more of the reason I will be keeping D+ for the next few months than either MCU or SW stuff. 

Seriously. I keep checking to see when the series switches over and it's still not there! I couldn't easily watch the last Doctor's seasons so I'm looking forward to catching up (for better or worse).

 


   
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We enjoyed The Marvels a lot.  I got the pathos I wanted from Monica and Carol's reunion (and in a couple other places), the action direction was top-notch and the film was gorgeous.  I was surprised I didn't get annoyed with Kamala (she played it just to the limit of her still being a positive teen girl with an unhealthy fixation) since I skipped out on her show.  I didn't mind the totally goofy section since it reminded me of the best of Ragnarok or GotG, but was still better than the turd of Love'n Blunder.  On 1st watch, the only negative for me was the Supreme Intelligence looking like early 90's 2d CG.  At least it was pretty comic accurate.


   
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I still haven't made the time to see Marvels. I'm a little disappointed in myself but there's just so much going on.


   
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I didn't end up seeing The Marvels and honestly I can't be bothered to at this point. Guess I'll wait until it hits streaming. First MCU movie I've ever said that about, but man...I am really just feeling lukewarm about most comic book stuff these days. 

I subscribed to Disney+ so I can finally watch Ahsoka and Loki season 2 but it's been a real struggle for me to get around to it. I'd rather be playing Baldur's Gate 3 🤣 

This isn't necessarily a commentary on the movie/shows.  Everybody needs a break from stuff, even stuff they love. 

 


   
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For me it's just the theater experience. I think I said before, but if they did the FNAF way of having a pay-to-stream option the same day it hit theaters, I would have seen it that first night. I will likely do that for every Marvel movie. I would have even done it for Quantumania without regret.


   
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I try to not post leaks and such from the internet scoopers in here because it changes so much and so rapidly that I rarely put much stock in them, but there was one I read this morning that I kinda hope is true anyway.

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Possible Dr. Doom casting

A lot of names have been thrown around for Doom, and the Fantastic Four in general, for a few years now. It's gotten really ridiculous and again, I'll believe it when I see Variety or THR saying it, but the one I saw this morning was Cillian Murphy. I would love for him to not only be in the MCU but given something serious and meaty rather than a throwaway villain or a kinda insignificant supporting person.

But Murphy is a conundrum for me as I reeeeeeally want them to start using the actual accent for people they cast (looking at Doctor Strange), otherwise cast someone with that accent. Yes I know, actors act, but I'd like a little more variety with the MCU's accents. Why I hope they get an actual Southern person to play Rogue. The exception to this is when where they're from is an essential component of the character, which is why I'm fine with Tom Holland not using his actual accent or the cast of Black Panther. So while I'd be stuck between loving to have another Irish accent in the MCU and wanting Doom's ethnicity to be comic accurate.

But I doubt it's real/will happen, so it doesn't really matter.


   
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@ru1977 I might have time to see The Marvels this weekend, if it is still around. I'm with you though, I feel a little guilty about not seeing it - I want to support Iman and Brie in particular given the stupidity in the discourse around their characters.


   
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@fac yeah, it's not like your ticket and mine are gonna turn the tide but it's the least we can do.


   
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Finally got out to see The Marvels. Given it has been out for a month now, don't think we need spoilers anymore...?

I enjoyed its quirkiness, from the singing planet to the baby Flerkens/escape pods with Memories on the soundtrack to Kamala essentially quoting Fury in the shadows recruiting Young Avengers. Iman is pretty charming still, but I think having the Khans on board the space station was a little too much of them though. I suspect there is a longer cut of the film that might make the first 1/3rd seem less disjointed, I am still not sure about how easy it was to get from the space station to Jersey City to wherever. With all the flashbacks, did they show the one where Kamala's Quantum Band was found near a blue dead body from the show? (Also, how did she still have powers when Dar-Benn had her band...)

The main quantum entanglement MacGuffin was kind of a stretch - given that I can accept that tentacle cats can swallow people, for some reason this seemed too much like a plot device than a plot point - an idea they wanted to build a film around and techno-babbled it. There was a little too much of that - like how did destroying the Supreme Intelligence somehow cause their sun to die and lose all their water in some civil war? Goose is wandering around laying eggs and no one notices? Why did they need new costumes on the singing planet? 

Kind of disappointed they blew right past the fact that Monica learned that Carol had come home to visit after she was blipped as they went through their memories. She was still mad about it but...

The whole Skrull storyline is totally confused at this point - did this happen before Secret Invasion? If not, they just sent a bunch of Skrulls to Norway while the Earth is ready to kill them all? No mention of Talos or any Earth-bound skrulls - if they had that planet (that Dar-Benn destroyed) why didn't the Earth Skrulls go there before this? This seemed like a rare instance where the MCU continuity was off...

Definitely a different alt-reality than we saw in MoM, given Maria is Binary here and she was not in that realm.

Brie gave the character a bit more life this time, which helped - she had more charm, if still too low-key. Her character just alternates from all-powerful to why is it taking more than a second to wipe out these Kree Soldiers?

As fluff, I enjoyed it, as part of the bigger MCU, I don't think it pulled together the past plot threads started in the first film, WandaVision and Ms. Marvel all that well, and as noted Secret Invasion and this are hard for me to reconcile.


   
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I doubt the people behind The Marvels knew anything that was happening in Secret Invasion, nor did they care. Maybe it's not as severe as the writer for MOM not caring what happened in WandaVision, but the MCU's continuity has never been airtight.

As far as I know, Kamala is a mutant whose powers were unlocked by the band but now she has them and it's more of an accessory than what gives her powers anymore.


   
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@ru1977 I wasn't sure if they had established that her being a mutant allowed the band to be used by her, or of the band mutated her, or what. In any case, I was a little surprised she could do the solid light without it. 

I get that continuity isn't air tight, but you have a show with Fury dealing with Skrulls not being happy they don't have a home that references Cpt Marvel, and a movie with Fury and Cpt Marvel that includes Skrulls in a refugee camp on another planet that doesn't reference Talos et al. One ends with Skrulls on Earth with the Asgardians presumably, the other ends with Skrulls outed on Earth as the bad guys. 


   
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Right, that's bad. And what makes it worse, in my eyes, is they were both produced recently, likely around the same time. So it REALLY wouldn't be weird to have the teams behind the two projects maybe even have just a lunch to discuss or something. it's not like Secret Invasion was released a decade ago and no on, including the writers, really remembers what happened there.

And I forget where it was said... maybe just Iman herself, but she was born a mutant and the bands just unlocked her. So he was born with that, unlike the Fantastic Four or Spider-Man where an outside thing gave her the powers. It would be cool if they explained that on screen, even in a throwaway line somewhere, but I kinda don't expect them to.


   
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Angelina Jolie said she is leaving Hollywood after finishing a couple of projects she's committed to. One they named was a Maleficent sequel, but I hope Eternals 2 is in there as well. I'd say she was one of the best parts of the first one but honestly, I loved the entire cast.


   
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As far as the lack of continuity in The Marvels goes, it's just one of the pitfalls of having an overabundance of content to keep track of.  Eventually writers and producers are going to let something slip through the cracks, either by accident or willingly for the purposes of being able to tell the story the want to tell without being beholden to one, two, or three other storylines.

Another pitfall of too much content is that I'm convinced this movie would NOT have been Marvel/Disney's lowest-ever money earner if it weren't a drop in the never ending bucket of superhero content.  I keep seeing reviews saying it didn't deserve these low numbers, and they're probably right.  If this same movie came out after a year or two of no Marvel movies, more people might have cared.   Then I see Bob Iger say things like, "I think we needed more executives on hand to make sure things were being done correctly".  No, no that is the exact wrong lesson being learned.  I think more than anything this movie was a victim of franchise fatigue.  It is a very real thing.


   
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