Nightcrawler became a full-on priest at one point (comic book shenanigans notwithstanding). It's always been front and center, just as it has with Daredevil.
Thank you. I don't quite understand folks asking a question and then essentially saying the answer isn't good enough. This is what the resources available said. How much more authoritative do we need to go than repositories that track this sort of information?
That said, on the issue of Captain America's faith, most likely his parents were Catholic as the Northern Irish (Protestants) weren't the segment of Irish society being repressed at the time and would have had less of a reason to leave their home country. Statistically, most Irish immigrants before 1840 were skilled workers from the Ulster region (Protestant), while after 1845 (Potato Famine era) most Irish were poorer Catholics fleeing to create a new life / avoid starvation. Whether Steve Rogers himself continued to hold his parents beliefs is up for debate, but children of immigrants at the time did more often than not.
Most likely Captain America's religion is left vague because he's more of an "all are welcome" character like Superman and it's less likely to put anyone off the character by leaving it vague.
Most likely religion in general is left vague on purpose for most characters for whom it is not a defining character trait central to their story and personality. Mainstream superhero comics characters are meant to appeal to as many people as possible and while representation matters creating unnecessary tension in readers that doesn't serve a narrative purpose is likely best avoided. Why mention it if you don't have to if it might alienate even one or two readers?
Again, I'm not saying all characters should be areligious - where it makes solid narrative sense to explore such a thing it can and should be done. But unless there's a good story to tell around it, or it truly enriches the narrative, just mentioning it casually may come with more risk than benefit?
Nightcrawler became a full-on priest at one point (comic book shenanigans notwithstanding). It's always been front and center, just as it has with Daredevil.
That said, on the issue of Captain America's faith, most likely his parents were Catholic as the Northern Irish (Protestants) weren't the segment of Irish society being repressed at the time and would have had less of a reason to leave their home country. Statistically, most Irish immigrants before 1840 were skilled workers from the Ulster region (Protestant), while after 1845 (Potato Famine era) most Irish were poorer Catholics fleeing to create a new life / avoid starvation. Whether Steve Rogers himself continued to hold his parents beliefs is up for debate, but children of immigrants at the time did more often than not.
Most likely Captain America's religion is left vague because he's more of an "all are welcome" character like Superman and it's less likely to put anyone off the character by leaving it vague.
Not that ANY of this actually matters at all, but you're actually forgetting something super important; Steve's dad was an Irish WWI veteran of the 107th. Statistically, the Northern Irish (Unionists) volunteered in far greater numbers so that's not surprising. And the Northern Irish were Protestant. And the 107th was also known as the Ulster brigade. I'd actually argue it's almost impossible that Steve's dad wasn't Protestant. So the real question is .. did he marry a Catholic? Because Steve's dad died while Steve was very young and his religion would have been impressed on him by his mother.
Again.. not that it matters. At all. Just fun to talk about.
Also definitely agree with both comments that religion for many superhero characters is intentionally vague so as not to make the characters divisive. Which, I think, sucks a bit. It's weird that people get all bent out of shape over the religion of fictional characters and act like 'well, I can't possibly like this character.. she's MUSLIM!' Stupid.
Not that ANY of this actually matters at all, but you're actually forgetting something super important; Steve's dad was an Irish WWI veteran of the 107th. Statistically, the Northern Irish (Unionists) volunteered in far greater numbers so that's not surprising. And the Northern Irish were Protestant. And the 107th was also known as the Ulster brigade. I'd actually argue it's almost impossible that Steve's dad wasn't Protestant. So the real question is .. did he marry a Catholic? Because Steve's dad died while Steve was very young and his religion would have been impressed on him by his mother.
Again.. not that it matters. At all. Just fun to talk about.
Also definitely agree with both comments that religion for many superhero characters is intentionally vague so as not to make the characters divisive. Which, I think, sucks a bit. It's weird that people get all bent out of shape over the religion of fictional characters and act like 'well, I can't possibly like this character.. she's MUSLIM!' Stupid.
The Northern Irish were a mix of Protestant and Catholic, that's why you had most of the political and social issues occurring in that area. They usually self-segregated by neighborhoods, but being in Northern Ireland didn't make someone Protestant. The better argument would be that being in the 107th meant Steve's father was likely Protestant, but the 107th formed at the time of WW1, which then begs the question, since it was inclusive old Ulster Brigade loyalists, was it exclusively loyalist or just included them? We can go further down the rabbit hole arguing whether he was a loyal loyalist, or a mole, as many of the IRA's members were actually loyalist spies, so it wouldn't be unheard of that the same could occur in reverse.
That said, here's a song I always listen to come St. Patrick's Day:
Hasbro could easily print money by releasing a refresher case combining the first two waves.
Wolverine
Rogue
Magneto
Gambit
Nightcrawler
Madelyne
That wave would sell really well and it would just be rereleasing figures!
So many companies could make so much more money by either rereleasing or refreshing sh**, but won't for some reason.
Still REALLY hoping on my Three Peters preorder on BBTS, because I never saw a single one of them in stores.
It's probably a situation like Diamond Select - they reissue figures, but those reissues take up a release slot, and they only have so many. So a re-release comes at the cost of a different figure. As the main license holder, does Hasbro release less new items to re-release items they already did? Would people want less new toys?
I'd like to see Series III of this line before a re-release wave. But this is also where current retail economics and I fundamentally differ - main characters should constantly be available.
Hasbro isn't limited in their license by numbers of SKUs (or "slots"). Diamond is limited because they're restricted by Hasbro's master license and can only release so many figures per year. It's certainly cheaper for Hasbro to re-release existing product than develop new product. Hasbro could reissue X-Men 97 figures if they want to. Just a matter of logistics, like scheduling factory time, etc.
Since 97 has been doing so well and there really isn't much MCU activity for the rest of the year (beyond Deadpool/Wolverine which certainly already has product scheduled), it wouldn't be a bad idea to do another run of some of the 97 figures which could arrive at stores for the last quarter and holiday shopping. We know a third 97 wave isn't scheduled to arrive until next year. Not every figure needs to be reissued. And I wouldn't even call refreshers a wave. Just a few main characters, like Wolverine, Cyclops, Rogue, who are always good sellers, out there again.
So many characters in the show switch to alternate looks for the end of the season. Will they get figures of those looks out? Will they just be repaints (ie face printing, new heads) of existing figures? FA Storm, Marvel Girl, skullcap Cyclops. Brown costume Wolverine will certainly use the new pinless 97 body. Cyclops would probably be on the Vulcan body, which would justify the long delay in re-releasing this costume from the Dark Phoenix 2pk.
So many characters in the show switch to alternate looks for the end of the season. Will they get figures of those looks out? Will they just be repaints (ie face printing, new heads) of existing figures? FA Storm, Marvel Girl, skullcap Cyclops. Brown costume Wolverine will certainly use the new pinless 97 body. Cyclops would probably be on the Vulcan body, which would justify the long delay in re-releasing this costume from the Dark Phoenix 2pk.
I know there are a lot of new characters that could be included in a wave 3, but I'm really hoping brown Wolverine and skullcap Cyclops are included. I want to finish the arcade team.
I'm guessing there would also be a 4th wave not too far down the line. Though, maybe that would be held until closer to season 2 starting. Is that like a year out?
The release schedule for Marvel Legends is established well in advance. Maybe they intentionally leave some wiggle room to react to changes in the market, but only Hasbro could confirm. It wouldn't surprise me if they have spots on the calendar for general reissues that X-Men '97 could take. It's definitely one of those things that looks simple to us from the outside, but for production there needs to be a factory with an opening and for Hasbro to fill that opening with 97 reissues also means they're bypassing something else. I'm sure the Legends team wants to do it, but it may take longer than people want.
Well, as far as my local stores are concerned, they still haven't released wave 2, so "better distribution" wouldn't even necessarily be "rereleases" lol... 😒
Hasbro isn't limited in their license by numbers of SKUs (or "slots"). Diamond is limited because they're restricted by Hasbro's master license and can only release so many figures per year.
Didn't say they were, but they do need to book factory time, production time, etc, which = slots.
Well, as far as my local stores are concerned, they still haven't released wave 2, so "better distribution" wouldn't even necessarily be "rereleases" lol... 😒
Yeah I haven’t seen wave 2 at retail either. I probably would impulse buy the remaining few that I didn’t get already.
Not that ANY of this actually matters at all, but you're actually forgetting something super important; Steve's dad was an Irish WWI veteran of the 107th. Statistically, the Northern Irish (Unionists) volunteered in far greater numbers so that's not surprising. And the Northern Irish were Protestant. And the 107th was also known as the Ulster brigade. I'd actually argue it's almost impossible that Steve's dad wasn't Protestant. So the real question is .. did he marry a Catholic? Because Steve's dad died while Steve was very young and his religion would have been impressed on him by his mother.
Again.. not that it matters. At all. Just fun to talk about.
Also definitely agree with both comments that religion for many superhero characters is intentionally vague so as not to make the characters divisive. Which, I think, sucks a bit. It's weird that people get all bent out of shape over the religion of fictional characters and act like 'well, I can't possibly like this character.. she's MUSLIM!' Stupid.
The Northern Irish were a mix of Protestant and Catholic, that's why you had most of the political and social issues occurring in that area. They usually self-segregated by neighborhoods, but being in Northern Ireland didn't make someone Protestant. The better argument would be that being in the 107th meant Steve's father was likely Protestant, but the 107th formed at the time of WW1, which then begs the question, since it was inclusive old Ulster Brigade loyalists, was it exclusively loyalist or just included them? We can go further down the rabbit hole arguing whether he was a loyal loyalist, or a mole, as many of the IRA's members were actually loyalist spies, so it wouldn't be unheard of that the same could occur in reverse.
That said, here's a song I always listen to come St. Patrick's Day:
I think you'd have to agree then when you get to the point of imagining that maybe the character was -actually- a spy, or somehow an outlier within his peer group JUST so he can not be what would make the most sense, then you're just grasping for reasons to not accept the most likely and reasonable explanation. Specifically when you're talking about a character that quite literally only exists because he has to exist. But yeah, it's absolutely true that any of those things are -possible-.
But if the writers that created Steve's dad's background thought enough to put him in the 107th -and even realized the implications of that-, I strongly doubt they considered much beyond that. And, to be clear, I'm not even sure they thought even that hard about it rather than just saying 'I heard the 107th were all Irish' and moving on from there because no one is ever going to care this much about who Captain America's dad was. Haha.
Still, they're fun thought experiments for a bunch of nerds. Can't argue with that.
My GameStops are getting a lot of refresh cases of wave 2. I'm starting to see X-Cutioner and even Nightcrawler starting to accumulate among the Magnetos and Jean Greys that haven't been moving. Madeline Pryor and especially Cyclops are usually gone.
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