@justice Shh. Shh. I’m trying to play the long game here. If people are saying Hasbro peruses the boards like these and made the Maximum Spidey 50 because people were saying 40 earlier, then I’ll say 50 so they might go 60 instead of 70 or 80. 😉
All jokes aside, I don’t think they should consider Thor and oversized figure because he was never an oversized figure before. Because that would make for any Asgardian his size like Fandral or Hogun an oversized when they get to them.
I’m always gonna demand more from a big toy company like Hasbro whether unrealistic or not. I wanna see how much we could push from them to give us value for a higher priced product, not the other way around.
I always thought of Thor as bigger than most other Asgardians. He's 6'6" or so. Fandral, Baldur, Hogun and Loki 6'2" or 6'3". Sif 6'. Obviously Voltagg is bigger (though not like 8' the way he is sometimes drawn lately) Odin size I'm ok varying depending how much of the Odin force is in him at the moment. Smaller before the Odin sleep, etc. Though I wish the Odin deluxe had chosen to go a little smaller. Like classic Thanos sized.
PS: where's our Baldur, Fandral and Hogun figures.
I will enjoy reading 50 pages of discourse about how fair/unfair the price is with a complete lack of self-awareness that nobody has to buy this, and you do not need another Spider-Man figure and therefore are not being taken advantage of.
This is a pretty reactionary take if you think about it. The endpoint of it (which you may not advocate but which we are approaching societally) is that niceties are for the rich alone. That as long as something isn't absolutely essential to life and you don't *need* to buy it, it is ok that those of lower means are priced out. Should only the rich have hobbies?
What is the hobby in question? Collecting Hasbro Marvel Legends? Collecting Spider-Man figures? Collecting Hasbro Marvel Legends Spider-Man figures? In any case, nobody who can't or doesn't want to spend $50 on one is priced out. There are only about 100 other Hasbro Spider-Man figures you can buy for half the price.
I think where we differ is that I see this as part of the larger hyperinflationary trend that has doubled the pricing of Mezco, Mafex, figma, and domestic retail lines including Marvel Legends over the span of only a decade, and maybe you see this as a one-off line unrelated to that trend. I don't think Hasbro intends to go the Maximum route for many of their B and C list releases but I absolutely do believe this tests the waters for tolerance to higher price points across all their figures. That ongoing trend - not only in action figures but across many recreational items and activities - is making leisure increasingly unaffordable to everyone but those with very high incomes. And - as a socialist who believes everyone is entitled to bread but to roses too - I think that sucks.
I don't disagree. The price of action figures is just very low on my personal list of issues with society. YMMV.
SpoilerHere are Renew Your Vows Spidey, Amazing Fantasy 15 Spidey, animated Spidey from the 2-pack with animated Vulture, and Mafex Classic Spidey in the closest poses I could get to the equivalent McFarlane Spider-Man #1 pose that Hasbro included in the promo images for Maximum Spidey. Clearly the worst is animated Spidey since he has no lower ab crunch or diaphragm joint and his leg can't kick up at the hips nearly as much as the other figures.
I can't clearly tell that Maximum Spidey can do the pose any better than RYV Spidey or Mafex Spidey. It looks like he can get his leg to kick up at roughly the same angle as those two, and he can't get his heel any closer to his butt than the others whereas Spidey in the cover art is touching his heel to his butt.
Right now I can't identify many ranges of motion evident in the promos that isn't also on RYV Spidey. Maybe that shot with his foot out by his head is better, but I didn't realize Mafex could do that so it may be that I just haven't pushed RYV Spidey far enough to know his full limits. Certainly the extra ball joint at the bottom of the neck is better and that's why he can look up in the promo shot far better than RYV Spidey can look up in my shot below.
It's also key to note that the articulation differences between RYV and Mafex Spidey are VERY minor at this point. In some ways RYV is actually better. For example Mafex Spidey can't get his legs up as far when they're pointing forward as he can with his hips dramatically splayed open, so you can see in my shot below that to get his legs up as far as I did I had to have him almost doing full splits while in this crouch. RYV Spidey on the other hand can close his hips for a more naturalistic pose with his hips just as far up as Mafex Spidey is.
Even the ultra thin and lanky Sentinel Spidey can't totally do McFarlane Spider-Man. This Spidey has almost no hamstring mass so the legs fold and contour together.
I pulled out my Toybiz Spider-Man Classics wave 1 Spider-Man and started trying to get him into every McFarlane pose I could think of. "I'll pose this guy up, take pictures, and show everyone that this 'dated' Spidey figure still holds up and who needs stupid old Hasbro's $50 Spider-Man", I told myself. It........it didn't go well.
Still the most important action figure of the last 25 years.
I just sold my AF 15 Spiderman Classics Wave 2 this past year. He wasn't that bad really. Just a matter of space more than anything. The sculpt had personality. I collected some TB 5" before but Spider-Man classics was the beginning of the end.
I don't disagree. The price of action figures is just very low on my personal list of issues with society. YMMV.
Fair. Again, it seems you view it as an isolated issue whereas I understand it to be tied to similar trends resulting from corporate greed turning the world into a playground for the rich and a joyless toil for most others.
Toy Biz deserves a tremendous amount of credit for action figure evolution. We'd never be here without groundbreaking figures in Spider-Man Classics and Marvel Legends. Those figures don't hold up today, but that's okay. They were instrumental in getting us where we are now.
I don't disagree. The price of action figures is just very low on my personal list of issues with society. YMMV.
Fair. Again, it seems you view it as an isolated issue whereas I understand it to be tied to similar trends resulting from corporate greed turning the world into a playground for the rich and a joyless toil for most others.
There's a theory that we're in... this situation... because some people like feeling superior to others. They like societal hierarchy, and they definitely like having someone below them in the social pecking order.
According to some, the working class was getting a little too big for its britches. Unionizing. Getting paid a reasonable wage to deliver a coffee from across town or serve as your personal chauffeur. That was simply unacceptable to a certain kind of person.
We'll never know for sure, but it wasn't driven by "economic anxiety."
Jeez man you're lucky it didn't fall apart like a graham cracker. The plastic on those old toybiz Spider-Man classics figures were not built to withstand the test of time.
This Spider-Man looks great, and I was happy to preorder it immediately before it sold out.
I preordered mine at Gamestop yesterday. Only needed to put $5 down and I can pay on it each payday so $50 hit doesn't come all at once. It's layaway for something that hasn't come in yet!! Lol.
Toy Biz deserves a tremendous amount of credit for action figure evolution. We'd never be here without groundbreaking figures in Spider-Man Classics and Marvel Legends.
People saw that Spider-Man from the SM Classics line and said, "Wow, I wish they made more Marvel figures like this!" Toybiz obliged and Marvel Legends was born. From there Mattel followed suit with DC Super Heroes, (essentially a Batman and Superman line), from there they did DC Universe Classics. From then on the name of the game for adult collectible action figures from any toy company was 6 inches, highly articulated to the point were now companies are shopping us $50 takes on the same model. All because of that Spider-Man Classics Spider-Man figure.
Toy Biz deserves a tremendous amount of credit for action figure evolution. We'd never be here without groundbreaking figures in Spider-Man Classics and Marvel Legends. Those figures don't hold up today, but that's okay. They were instrumental in getting us where we are now.
I don't disagree. The price of action figures is just very low on my personal list of issues with society. YMMV.
Fair. Again, it seems you view it as an isolated issue whereas I understand it to be tied to similar trends resulting from corporate greed turning the world into a playground for the rich and a joyless toil for most others.
There's a theory that we're in... this situation... because some people like feeling superior to others. They like societal hierarchy, and they definitely like having someone below them in the social pecking order.
According to some, the working class was getting a little too big for its britches. Unionizing. Getting paid a reasonable wage to deliver a coffee from across town or serve as your personal chauffeur. That was simply unacceptable to a certain kind of person.
We'll never know for sure, but it wasn't driven by "economic anxiety."
Look at the drive to get people back into the office. I'm a five day a week office guy, even through the pandemic, but think bringing back all those people is absurd. I love the team building and socializing excuse. I mock your "team building" by emailing my coworker that's like 10 feet away and browsing the fwoosh while on the clock.
I legit think I would hate working from home. Leaving aside the fact that my job couldn't be done remotely, I simply spend plenty of time alone as it is and don't need to make it my whole life.
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