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hmmberto
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Posted by: @enigmaticclarity

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He's still too small, like I knew he would be.

MCUCollector24 recently reviewed him, and someone in the comments for his review claimed that back when Kirby first created him in 1962 he was of average height and that Marvel artists made him 6' 6" later on.  That's the first time I've ever heard that, and I have no idea if it's right or not.

I do know that Hasbro and Medicom's research on issues like this are usually right far more often than we are, so now I'm wondering if we've all been behind the curve on how tall this Thor should have been.  😳  I was planning to research it but haven't gotten around to it yet.

No doubt Thor is bigger now than he was in the early days. But he's still too slight overall, and too short.

No doubt there are counterexamples. If the argument is that he appeared this size, inconsistently, for a handful of his very early appearances than I'd say - fine, but why base the figure on that?

 


   
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I saw that first pic from Avengers #1 back when I first heard that person claim Thor was originally shorter, but the perspective is skewed so I couldn't tell much.

The second picture is misleading.  Hulk was originally 7 feet tall, so if we were to take that pic at face value the original Iron Man is also 7 feet tall and Thor is something like 7' 5".  Maybe Thor and Iron Man are standing on something...but I'm sure that's not it.  I'm quite familiar with Kirby and details like this--he very clearly didn't try for consistency for little details like character heights.  You can find dozens and dozens of examples of Kirby messing up little character details from panel to panel across the comics he drew.  My guess is that if Thor was established as being of average human build then Stan Lee said it in the text somewhere because Stan was a bit more attentive to those details.  I'm pretty sure it's Stan who said in the text what Hulk's height was at the start.

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If the argument is that he appeared this size, inconsistently, for a handful of his very early appearances than I'd say - fine, but why base the figure on that?

Because from everything I can tell they're really attentive to details like this.  Everyone thinks Mafex Venom is too short, but Brock is 6' 3" and Peter Parker is 5' 10", and the height difference between those two on the figures does translate to about a five inch real-size difference pretty well.  The symbiote didn't fill in below its host's legs or above their head for at least the first 5+ years of Venom like the symbiotes do now.

I'm certainly not suggesting Thor was definitely around 6 feet tall like the figure depicts him because I really have no idea.  It's also possible that the Mafex sculptors just screwed up, but I'm not longer sure of it like I've been since it first released.


   
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Posted by: @enigmaticclarity

I saw that first pic from Avengers #1 back when I first heard that person claim Thor was originally shorter, but the perspective is skewed so I couldn't tell much.

The second picture is misleading.  Hulk was originally 7 feet tall, so if we were to take that pic at face value the original Iron Man is also 7 feet tall and Thor is something like 7' 5".  Maybe Thor and Iron Man are standing on something...but I'm sure that's not it.  I'm quite familiar with Kirby and details like this--he very clearly didn't try for consistency for little details like character heights.  You can find dozens and dozens of examples of Kirby messing up little character details from panel to panel across the comics he drew.  My guess is that if Thor was established as being of average human build then Stan Lee said it in the text somewhere because Stan was a bit more attentive to those details.  I'm pretty sure it's Stan who said in the text what Hulk's height was at the start.

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If the argument is that he appeared this size, inconsistently, for a handful of his very early appearances than I'd say - fine, but why base the figure on that?

Because from everything I can tell they're really attentive to details like this.  Everyone thinks Mafex Venom is too short, but Brock is 6' 3" and Peter Parker is 5' 10", and the height difference between those two on the figures does translate to about a five inch real-size difference pretty well.  The symbiote didn't fill in below its host's legs or above their head for at least the first 5+ years of Venom like the symbiotes do now.

I'm certainly not suggesting Thor was definitely around 6 feet tall like the figure depicts him because I really have no idea.  It's also possible that the Mafex sculptors just screwed up, but I'm not longer sure of it like I've been since it first released.

Kirby's sizes really are all over the place. Hulk is definitely not drawn to be 7 feet tall in his early Avengers appearances, except for the odd panel where he's absolutely massive. He's roughly eye level with Thor or Iron Man throughout those early issues, and then randomly 3 feet taller than Rick Jones or suddenly as wide as a house.

I take your point about the inconsistencies in Kirby's character heights. But if it is the case that the drawn panels can't really be relied on, I'd say it makes more sense to default to relative scaling - by which measure, Thor is still too small/slight overall compared to the other Avengers Mafex has made. Even if there is some line of dialogue somewhere establishing that he's 6 foot nothing with narrow shoulders I'd consider that to be extremely pedantic rather than extremely attentive, and not representing the character as they were actually depicted. I think they made an effort to depict early days Thor and just erred on the slightly too small side, and it's only highlighted the more he stands next to his buddies.

 


   
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Daredevil has been reissued on several Japanese sites for anyone after him still


   
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Did Jubilee ever go up for pre-order? She's tempting.


   
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Yeah, Jubilee is up for pre-order now. She's about $80. Unfortunately she looks to have single-jointed knees and elbows.


   
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Does anyone know the release date for Rogue? I've seen various sites listing April, May and June!


   
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Hobby-Genki just hit me up to get my payment in for the Rogue I had preordered with them, and they have her scheduled to be available April 30th.

Hoping they'll let me pay for her and hold her in the Private Warehouse (even though the original order requested it be shipped solo). Sounds like Tobey should be coming right around the same time.


   
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Hot damn! That means I should be getting mine from N2G in about 9 months. 🙄


   
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Posted by: @h-bird

Hobby-Genki just hit me up to get my payment in for the Rogue I had preordered with them, and they have her scheduled to be available April 30th.

Hoping they'll let me pay for her and hold her in the Private Warehouse (even though the original order requested it be shipped solo). Sounds like Tobey should be coming right around the same time.

 

Same here (literally a few hours after I posted the message here LOL)

 


   
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Bought my first Mafex figure this morning - BBTS had the No.223 Daredevil in stock briefly, now showing PO sold out. Not sure how that works, but it's in my POL now. Excited to finally commit to Mafex. Have my eye on Captain America 217 on eBay for my next one. 


   
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Posted by: @h-bird

Hobby-Genki just hit me up to get my payment in for the Rogue I had preordered with them, and they have her scheduled to be available April 30th.

Hoping they'll let me pay for her and hold her in the Private Warehouse (even though the original order requested it be shipped solo). Sounds like Tobey should be coming right around the same time.

 

Do they often ask for payment for Mafex figures that keep getting rescheduled? April has 6 figures scheduled (or at least 6 that I have on preorder), and March has 2. Realistically, we'll get 4-5 max.

 


   
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No idea, actually - I haven't ordered from them too many times!


   
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