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Vision used to be this really big build! Like Cap’s or Wonder Man’s size. That retro body may have been the best Vision available at the time, but like many Vision figures before him, too small. This one is finally taking steps to rectify that.


   
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Namorita looks great -- except that it doesn't look like any known version of the character. Bizarre choice, really.

 

Yes, there have been classic versions of Vision before, but this one looks to be the best to date. Never mind seeing improvements on past figures.

 

Power Princess looks great as well, but is her outfit dark purple or just plain black? It should be purple!


   
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Jae Lee was a big deal back then, I remember this Namor run regularly featured in Wizard but I couldn’t tell you anything about it almost 30 yrs later.

 

I recall that he skimped on backgrounds, but I kinda liked his style. It was very clean. Of course, not drawing backgrounds will do that! 😉 

 


   
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Posted by: @kcekada

Posted by: @maschine9

Jae Lee was a big deal back then, I remember this Namor run regularly featured in Wizard but I couldn’t tell you anything about it almost 30 yrs later.

 

I recall that he skimped on backgrounds, but I kinda liked his style. It was very clean. Of course, not drawing backgrounds will do that! 😉 

 

I've never liked Jae Lee's art. It was always too dark and sketchy for me, and basically looked like one step up from a Rorschach test. Bleh.

 


   
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Jae Lee got better in time. I loved his Inhumans run and Fantastic Four 1234.


   
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Agreed, @normdapito. I wasn't a fan when he started Namor, but boy did his style evolve. I've loved everything he did from Inhumans going forward. He did terrific work on the Dark Tower series, and then he had another style evolution (see the many Dynamite covers he's been doing) that I also appreciate. Very talented guy.


   
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I've never liked Jae Lee's art. It was always too dark and sketchy for me, and basically looked like one step up from a Rorschach test. Bleh.

 

It's funny -  this was my exact complaint about Sienkiewicz after he took over New Mutants back when I was like 12...   but later I grew to really appreciate what he had put on the page and it made me retroactively appreciate those old books more.    So with Jae Lee -  while the transition from Byrne's ultra-clean old school style to Lee's crazy, line heavy, shadowy renditions was a little jarring at first it didn't bother me that much and I kind of appreciated the new-school Sienkiewicz approach.    I don't think it translates to 3-D particularly well though.

 


   
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Posted by: @panthercult
Already Target and Wal-Mart are passing on these most recent waves of comic only Legends figures.

I wonder if sales took a hit because of the windowless packaging?

 

I think a certain type of collector desperately wants that to be the case when the truth is probably that the prices have risen to an unsustainable level for an oversaturated, late-stage line that supports a cooling-off brand in a year with delayed and poorly-received content.

 


   
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If Hasbro didn't see it as a contributing factor they would not have immediately switched back for *every brand* as soon as they physically could on the production line.

It had a direct impact on reducing impulse purchases for me, and then I've had to return so many items to Amazon that were swapped by someone else.

But also yes to the rest of what you said. The second there is a sale or clearance, everything flies off the shelf - the demand is there, but not at these price points.


   
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Have you tried having real problems in your life, though? It's an experience.


   
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If Hasbro didn't see it as a contributing factor they would not have immediately switched back for *every brand* as soon as they physically could on the production line.

It had a direct impact on reducing impulse purchases for me, and then I've had to return so many items to Amazon that were swapped by someone else.

 

I for one went from buying 2 to sometimes 4 of certain characters if I really loved the figure or liked the retro packaging.  The windowless packaging forced me to start opening figures, but I never bought more than a single figure of each character that I wanted.  In turn it also led me to wait on certain figures that I knew would hit clearance.  Others like Black Widow that I knew I had to have I paid full price for or used store credit toward.  I doubt I'll go back to getting 3 and 4 copies of characters I love anymore.  Maybe one to stay boxed and one to open now at most.  The majority not even that, as I have no attachment to X-Men 97 packaging versus the old Retro Toybiz stuff.

 


   
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Posted by: @panthercult

Posted by: @thor-el

I've never liked Jae Lee's art. It was always too dark and sketchy for me, and basically looked like one step up from a Rorschach test. Bleh.

 

It's funny -  this was my exact complaint about Sienkiewicz after he took over New Mutants back when I was like 12...   but later I grew to really appreciate what he had put on the page and it made me retroactively appreciate those old books more.    So with Jae Lee -  while the transition from Byrne's ultra-clean old school style to Lee's crazy, line heavy, shadowy renditions was a little jarring at first it didn't bother me that much and I kind of appreciated the new-school Sienkiewicz approach.    I don't think it translates to 3-D particularly well though.

Sienkiewicz is another artist whose work I've never cared for either. I was really unhappy when he took over New Mutants back in the day (I was 13 at the time).

 


   
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I don't have what one could call a strong opinion about the trash that surrounds my toys either way, but I did do a little bit of the face scrunched up "bleh" type of expression when they announced they were going back to the windows. I've found myself liking the look of the windowless packaging. At least, for the small amount of time it actually exists in the form of packaging and not trash. 


   
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@ibentmyman-thing I love the windowless packaging on the Indiana Jones line. I haven't had the misfortune of anyone swapping figures yet. And there is an little jolt of joy for me in the process opening and unwrapping a windowless packaged figure, almost like opening a present that someone wrapped for you, and getting to inspect the goods. I did get an Club Obi-Wan Indy with crooked eyes once, which I promptly exchanged at Target with no hassle.


   
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I love the feeling of flattening all the windowless packaging and carrying it out to the recycling in one go even after opening a bunch of figures.


   
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